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Admin rightsEdit

Hello, You told me in September, that when I reach, the 1000 edits you give me administratot rights. So I did it. All the bests, --BanKris (talk) 09:37, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Dear @BanKris:, I believe you have somewhat misunderstood me. Yes, after noticing your intensive translation activity, I asked you if you would accept to be admin on WS. With this request I simply took for granted that you knew that adminship is something that i not just given by a user, but something that goes through a nimination and voting progress. Later, I noticed that you hadnt been member for one year, and had less than 1 000 edits, and I wrote you and explained that I must wait to nominate you. Meanwhile, WS had another two, new admins, and I did not see a severe need for more, especially since your activity became less intensive.
Now you have sent me email, and asked me why I havent nominated you, as if I had given you a promise to do so. This indicates for me that you are not totally familiar with the policies of Wikispecies, among other things that make me reluctant to nominate you.
But you can apply for adminship yourself. Please read more about admins work, and feel free to nominate yourself.
Dan Koehl (talk) 17:49, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Oh, sorry for that. I was inattentive. --BanKris (talk) 18:56, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Talk page lengthEdit

Hi Dan,

Your talk page is - before I save this - 131,855 bytes long. That can cause problems reading or editing it for some users. Please archive most of it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:17, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

For sure, and you are right @Pigsonthewing:, now its done! :) Dan Koehl (talk) 18:55, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

not a typo: is Materialy a "strange word"?Edit

Hello Dan Koehl, your bot changed the russian word Materialy to Not a typo|Materialy, (for example in Oreosalsola drobovii and Salsola junatovii)‎. 1.this does not work, as the word Materialy is no longer visible. 2. Also I would doubt, if this word should be included in your list of "strange words". Numerous russian journals are titled Materialy, e.g. "Botaniceskie Materialy ...", so this word will appear in many thousands of pages, especially when more asiatic species are included in wikispecies! Kind regards, --Thiotrix (talk) 09:00, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out, @Thiotrix:, a second option is to change in the list of typos. Dan Koehl (talk) 09:06, 26 January 2017 (UTC)


Hi Dan,

is the Checkuser application a coded piece or did you just type it out. If you wish I can self nominate or you or someone can nominate me. I was involved in the original discussions about having CU's on WS. So am very familiar with the issue. This way we would get at least two and meet the criteria straight away. Cheers, Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 13:53, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

You can nominate yourself at Checkuser application which is available at How do I become a checkuser? where you change Username in the string Wikispecies:Checkusers/Requests/Username to your user name, and press the button "request Checkusership". At Requests_for_Comment you can see and vote on the present (self-)nominated users. Dan Koehl (talk) 14:14, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Third application for checkuserEdit

Further to recent messages, I am also offering to serve, so that we have three checkuser operators, to ensure adequate coverage in case one of the others is unavailable. Please comment at Wikispecies:Checkusers/Requests/Pigsonthewing. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:47, 28 January 2017 (UTC)


I see you blocked 323van indefinitely. My first instinct as well, and almost did it. But with years of experience in dealing with Creationists, there is very much psychology and politics involved. Blocking right off serves their martyrdom, which is of utmost importance in Creationism. They already hallucinate that scientists are all universally conspiring against them, and being debunked reinforces that. I have seen them leave blogs crying "You all just hate Christians". Interesting that, as one science blog I am on has 4 ordained ministers. Frequently, they do not do this on their own volition, but are sent by their preachers. They are not like regular troll spammers, who just like to be annoying. Best way is to warn and explain, then blast them if they do not listen. Neferkheperre (talk) 16:22, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

I see, interesting, I must admit, my experience from Creationists is maybe limited, and a block for another time period is perfectly OK with me, what would you suggest; a month, or a week, or a year? Dan Koehl (talk) 16:32, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I think first explaining that Creationism is not considered to be real science, then one month blocking if they don't respond accordingly, would do it. Creationists are not well educated in science, and have short attention spans. They are unlikely to ever become productive editors here. Most live in Midwestern or Southern USA, and have political and psychological clout there. Otherwise, only Northern Ireland and Queensland have substantial numbers. There is another Islamic group, from Turkey, called Harun Yahya, which sporadically spams science websites with incredibly long, repetitive and half-coherent ranting. Typically, they will just spam-and-run, and are not likely to try to re-edit any of our pages. Neferkheperre (talk) 18:01, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
But, is there any chance whatsoever, that this user may one day instead of vandalizing WS, start to contribute in any creative way? Dan Koehl (talk) 21:34, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Not totally impossible. It is not very common. Neferkheperre (talk) 00:59, 1 February 2017 (UTC)


Dear Dan Koehl, right now I do not have enought time to do this job. Thank you very much anyway.--Alfredalva (talk) 15:27, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dan Koehl, I accept the nomination. Thanks Burmeister (talk) 11:51, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks again!!! Burmeister (talk) 12:23, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Welcome, and thank you for helping out with this. Dan Koehl (talk) 12:38, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Mail list?Edit

Will I now get unwanted messages to my talk page as you added my name there without my approval? Stryn (talk) 16:00, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

RE:Translation admin logotypeEdit

Hi, both images were in Commons (the other could not be alone in Wikispecies, since there is no local upload files), I think it is better to leave it as this, since I admit that yours also fit well. If you want you can use any of the 2, I have no problem. Regards. Alvaro Molina ( - ) 21:30, 9 February 2017 (UTC)


Hi, I have already corrected it, I forgot to place the noinclude in the translation tags. Thanks and Regards. Alvaro Molina ( - ) 23:00, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Format of Help PageEdit

Hi @Dan Koehl: as you have noticed have made some additions to the Name Section of the Help Pages, but I am not sure about the format side of things. If you could have a look - Thanks. I would also like to add a specific full example for botany, but I am not sure whether or not this is required - Advice? Cheers Andyboorman (talk) 14:21, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Wow @Andyboorman:, that was needed I guess, great initiative! Thanks for telling, I´ll take a look later. Dan Koehl (talk) 16:08, 10 February 2017 (UTC)


Hi Dan Koehl. Congrats with the CheckUser rights. In order to complete your request for CU access, I need your email address. I need it to subscribe you to the checkuser mailing list and give you access to the CU wiki. Also: if you use IRC, please give me your irc nick and cloak. I wanted to send you an email, but it seems you disabled email access. Please enable it in your preferences and send me an email via Special:EmailUser/Trijnstel. Thanks. Trijnstel (talk) 13:36, 14 February 2017 (UTC)


How does one make this symbol? Revisions do not give clear idea. Neferkheperre (talk) 00:16, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

@Neferkheperre:, I must admit I dont know, we dont use the character dash in Sweden, and on my swedish keyboard I dont have it, although I guess with help from Google, I can find a solution. depending on which keyboard you have, maybe you dont have it. I guess best thing then is to read about how you can create fast computer commands. Dan Koehl (talk) 00:27, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
No, wait, of course, the wiki commands, when you edit a page or talk page, you have them at the bottom, a selection of characters, if dash is not yet among them, we should see to that we get it there. Dan Koehl (talk) 00:30, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
OK, I spotted it in inserts. thanks. Neferkheperre (talk) 02:07, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
@Neferkheperre: you can make it also by holding the alt-key and typing 0150 on the keypad. Mariusm (talk) 11:01, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Great. Really all I have to do is remember it at all for non-Zootaxa references. Neferkheperre (talk) 14:18, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

CSVLoader pluginEdit

Hi, are you familiar with the CSVLoader plugin for AutoWikiBrowser? Seems it can do the job of creating new articles from CSV data files. Mariusm (talk) 10:57, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

No, @Mariusm:, but I will look into that, sounds exciting. Dan Koehl (talk) 11:33, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

SUCCESS!! I created 3 articles with AWB and the plug in: Gastroserica higonia‎, Gastroserica herzi‎, Gastroserica haucki‎ Mariusm (talk) 11:29, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Bot requestEdit

Hi, can you please use your bot to make the following changes on pages with {{Spage}} (8700 pages).

  • Find: {{Spage}}
  • Replace with: Species: ''[[{{subst:BASEPAGENAME}}]]''\n\n==Name==\n''{{subst:BASEPAGENAME}}''

This template was the creation of Stephen and it makes section-editing impossible.

Many thanks Mariusm (talk) 16:23, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

I see @Mariusm:. The bot is still going on with hyphen corrections, (did some 150 000 now) but I can always stop that and help you out with those files, shouldn't take long time, and it sounds like its a bit urgent? Dan Koehl (talk) 17:26, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Ill make some 10 tests first. (I found the 8 705 pages..?) Dan Koehl (talk) 17:38, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

OK, @Mariusm: please check the outcome of the changes, and if it looks OK, confirm, and then I will run the Bot. Dan Koehl (talk) 17:45, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Running another 10 with the Bot now... Dan Koehl (talk) 18:01, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

First now I noticed that the Species has a white space.... will have to go through many files again. :(

Species: Acineta densa

Dan Koehl (talk) 01:33, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Looks fine to me; not seeing any problems. Mariusm (talk) 08:39, 24 February 2017 (UTC)


Hello, I think it's already fixed, it was missing adding noinclude tags to the closing tag. Regards. Alvaro Molina ( - ) 15:26, 26 February 2017 (UTC)


Hello Dan, can you please take care of ISBNs formatted with hyphens when working with your bot? Best wishes, RLJ (talk) 00:59, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for this @RLJ:, its just strange that there were no errors with some other + 200 000 files, and it has been working well for almost a week, while this happened with the pages updated by you? How many would you estimate you had to correct after the Bot changed them? @Mariusm and Koavf:Do you have an idea? Dan Koehl (talk) 04:58, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
I will make a try with ((?<!ISBN): [0-9]+)-([0-9]+) Dan Koehl (talk) 05:34, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
It seems it is this one \sISBN(.*)([0-9])–([0-9]+[A-z]+) creating this problem @RLJ:. Ill see what happens when I inactivate. Dan Koehl (talk) 06:00, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Maybe it is the citation format („ISBN 84-00-07375-4: 332–334“ with a link to the full text under the page numbers). I changed it in Cistus. Can you check if this article escapes your bot now? RLJ (talk) 09:41, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Yes @RLJ:, that one passed through without change now. Thanks for your support and understanding. It would be best, however, to create a script that would accept that format you use, since there's nothing wrong with it, I guess. Bit if its OK with you to change the format, that would help a lot in the present update, I have soon gone through all files on Wikispecies. Dan Koehl (talk) 09:49, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
OK, I will change the format in the other articles. RLJ (talk) 09:57, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. Dan Koehl (talk) 09:59, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Fix tagsEdit

Wikispecies:Oversight has broken tvar tags. --Wargo (talk) 15:08, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Another correction the References needEdit

I see you're still hard at work on the refs. I intended to ask you to see to another correction if you've the time and inclination: to remove the bold type from volume numbers per consensus (see Help:Reference section).

For example to turn:

  • Fairmaire L. 1879: Descriptions de coléoptères nouveaux ou peu connus du Musée Godeffroy. Journal du Musée Godeffroy. Hamburg, 14: 80-114.


  • Fairmaire L. 1879: Descriptions de coléoptères nouveaux ou peu connus du Musée Godeffroy. Journal du Musée Godeffroy. Hamburg, 14: 80–114.

Thanks, Mariusm (talk) 16:29, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes @Mariusm:, why not? I am still on M... this will take time, and its good if the edits cover as much as possible. I will look into the configuration. Dan Koehl (talk) 16:38, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
I intended to make the two requests together, but forgot about it. Mariusm (talk) 16:44, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
@Mariusm:. I think this works: 1 2. Dan Koehl (talk) 22:12, 7 March 2017 (UTC) I wil run this on test for sme 100 edits and evaluate. Dan Koehl (talk) 22:13, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Just a minor correction (forgive my pedantry) you turned 6(2) into 6 (2) it has to be 6(2) without the space between volume and fascicle. Mariusm (talk) 07:57, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
ooops. Dan Koehl (talk) 09:55, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to raise the alarm flag again: There's an unnecessary space between the volume number and the following ":" - For example

  • Nunomura 2000: Terrestrial isopod and amphipod crustaceans from the Imperial Palace, Tokyo. Memoirs of the National Science Museum, 35 : 79–97.

should be:

  • Nunomura 2000: Terrestrial isopod and amphipod crustaceans from the Imperial Palace, Tokyo. Memoirs of the National Science Museum, 35: 79–97.

Mariusm (talk) 16:36, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

@Mariusm:, I think now its working, see the edits under my userspace, not the Bot. Dan Koehl (talk) 17:30, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Not yet - Pseudophilautus semiruber has Records of the Indian Museum, 9 : 301–307. with space between the "9" and the ":". Mariusm (talk) 17:52, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
@Mariusm:,I think you have better eyes than me, for me it ooks OK now. Dan Koehl (talk) 18:14, 9 March 2017 (UTC) Please confirm s I can change to Bot. Dan Koehl (talk) 18:17, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
I edited the Pseudophilautus semiruber to remove the space - Please see the diff Mariusm (talk) 18:25, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

OK @Mariusm: I will revert your edit, and see if the AWB now solves the problem. Dan Koehl (talk) 18:31, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

I hope now theres no errors. I turn on the Bot, and eventually leave soon, didn't sleep last night, so I have to catch up. Dan Koehl (talk) 19:28, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Taxonav boxEdit

@Dan Koehl: Hi Dan could you please change the taxonav wording in the collapse box to "Classification System: APG IV". I had a look but got rapidly lost in nested templates! I think I have made all the relevant taxa changes at order downwards several months ago, but this should have an independent cross check. If there are higher level changes needed then I think we need a VP discussion. Thanks Andyboorman (talk) 11:57, 9 March 2017 (UTC)


Hi Dan, I noticed the two requests for oversight. I know that it's kind of late to comment, but do we really need such rights on Wikispecies? I mean: how many needs for such actions are needed yearly? More than 2-3? --Ruthven (talk) 15:40, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

@Ruthven:, since its not a question regarding my person but about the right? I move your question to to the rfc. Dan Koehl (talk) 11:55, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Unwanted space - please stop the bold conversion.Edit

Hi, your bold-removing still isn't perfect. You insert a superfluous space between x(y) to make it x (y). See the diff. Please stop the process until you fix this. Mariusm (talk) 08:12, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Maybe someone else wants to continue. Dan Koehl (talk) 08:16, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
Can you show me the regex you use so I can have a look at it? Mariusm (talk) 08:24, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

It's easy: On the code:

        <Replace>$1 </Replace>

Just delete the space after the $1. Mariusm (talk) 10:16, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

I saw this yesterday (when editing Amanda Reid) and even though it isn't a huge issue, it's a shame it doesn't get fixed while AWB is fiddling with the pages anyway. If you like I can take over in a day or two Dan. As of this writing I haven't got AWB installed, hence the slight delay. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 11:50, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
@Mariusm:, I told you before, you have much better eyes than me, I have now tried the config with your correction, and it seems to work fine, please take a look! Dan Koehl (talk) 21:45, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes, you're good to go. Mariusm (talk) 06:08, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
Very good, so now I will run the edits with KoehlBot instead. Dan Koehl (talk) 21:47, 25 March 2017 (UTC)


Hi Dan! This user has made a lot of edits on your userpage which weren't too useful, so I just told you about them. And in his/her name there is the word "BOT" which can be misleading. --BanKris (talk) 10:05, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

And User:ClitheroeBot as well. They dindn't do any useful up to now. --BanKris (talk) 10:10, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks @BanKris:, maybe we shuld have them blocked as well...Dan Koehl (talk) 10:26, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
And I have one more question: What should I do when I see vandalism during patrolling? Do we have a page for "Report vandalism" or I have to ask for somebody? And if we have not got any page for that it could be useful to make one. Thanks for the answer, BanKris (talk) 16:51, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello @BanKris: My advise is to add a vandalism template to the vandal's talk page, however please chose wisely among the different templates so that it correlates to the severity of the malevolent act. For instance using the {{Uw-vandalism4}} template to hit a fairly innocent edit by a newcomer with a note in bold text shouting "This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize Wikispecies, you may be blocked from editing without further notice!" is of course over the top, and counterproductive.
The use of those templates is fairly well monitored by admins and bureaucrats, and together with the data we gather from Recent Changes (in combination with lists of unpatrolled edits) that's generally enough. In particularly severe cases of vandalism I recommend also adding a heads-up on the Administrators' Noticeboard, which is monitored 24/7 by yours truly and other admins. All the best wishes, and happy editing, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 17:27, 16 April 2017 (UTC).
@Tommy Kronkvist:, @Dan Koehl: Thank you very much! --BanKris (talk) 17:34, 16 April 2017 (UTC)


Hi, I've written you an email, when you can read it. Regards. —Alvaro Molina ( - ) 17:07, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Ämbetsmannaklassmallar på systersajtEdit

Hej min vän. Ett inte så viktigt ärende, men jag vill passa på att berätta att jag skapat mallen {{User bureaucrat Wikispecies}} på Wikidata, som kan användas på din användarsida där om du vill. Man kan välja mellan att använda den "som vanligt" eller bädda in den i en Babel-mall, antingen rakt av såhär {{#babel:bureaucrat Wikispecies}} eller tillsammans med andra "Babel-parametrar": {{#babel:sv-N|en-2|(…och kanske ännu flera språk)|bureaucrat Wikispecies}}. Notera den lite udda syntaxen i de båda sistnämnda fallen, utan ordet "User" trots att det ingår i namnet på mallen. Det ordet läggs alltid automatiskt till i babelmallarna av Wikidatas programtolk (parser function), så att man inte ska kunna baka in sånt i babelboxen som inte rör användaruppgifter.

Oavsett hur man använder mallen så kommer sidan automatiskt att bli medlem i Category:Wikispecies bureaucrats på Wikidata.

Ha det gott. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 01:47, 10 July 2017 (UTC).

Numera finns en likadan på svenskspråkiga Wikipedia: {{Användare Wikispecies byråkrat}}. Det är ju inte så rysligt många av Wikispecies byråkrater som är aktiva på svWP, men ändå... ;-) Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 11:22, 11 July 2017 (UTC).

Category:Psara vecordalisEdit

I accidentally created the above category. Deletion would be appreciated. JMK (talk) 19:30, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

No problem, @JMK:, category has been deleted. Dan Koehl (talk) 19:58, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
@JMK: I've created a page for the Psara genus, but please help complete the list of species in the Taxonavigation section if you can. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 01:18, 5 September 2017 (UTC).

Dorcus grandisEdit

So there is a stag beetle with the binomial name Dorcus grandis that doesn't seem to be listed, mind making page for it? 2601:5CB:C101:293E:78EC:1291:818:C88A 04:53, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

  Done. The page Dorcus grandis is now created, including pages for the subspecies D. g. grandis and D. g. moriyai. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 01:12, 14 October 2017 (UTC).
Thank you sir. 2601:5CB:C101:293E:B50E:7380:D0F7:5A48 03:31, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

IP warningEdit

Hi Dan. In regards to your message on’s talk page, please note that the IP is already globally blocked for one month. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:39, 13 October 2017 (UTC).

Thanks, @Tommy Kronkvist:, yes on blacklist also, just used it to see that Huggles automatic comment (button number 7 from the left, a yellow square) is working, which it is! Dan Koehl (talk) 23:46, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
That explains the relatively mild tone in your message... ;-) In any case the auto-comment function is a nice feature. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:51, 13 October 2017 (UTC).

AutoWikiBrowser and typosEdit

Hi Dan, I am wondering how AutoWikiBrowser works. I noticed that you corrected the German word "Autors", so I added a comment in Wikispecies:AutoWikiBrowser/Typos. But in subsequent edits, you corrected it again, see e.g. [1], [2]. Is there the possibility to selectively choose which word needs to be fixed? Also, I do not speak Swedish but it seems to me that in this edit, the word "Japans" does not need to be corrected. Kind regards, Korg (talk) 08:44, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

@Korg:, you did the right thing, thanks, and sorry about the three files. For sure, for every time I go through the files, solutions for the problems you described will hep avoid new errors. The {{lang}} template is oe of them. The configurations you did at the Wikispecies:AutoWikiBrowser/Typos is another. Needless to say, the corrections of hundred of files with plainly misspelled words, is a tiring work, which would of course be good if a bot could take care of, but it seems difficault at this stage, so manually spellchecking all the files is still needed. Thanks a lof for your feedback! Dan Koehl (talk) 10:36, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
You're welcome! Just to let you know, you added twice the {{lang}} template in several pages (e.g. [3]), but I removed it as it is redundant. Best wishes, Korg (talk) 20:57, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks a lot @Korg:. Im once again going through the files. converting hyphen to dashes, please give me a note if you see anything strange. Dan Koehl (talk) 21:01, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Template blanked by KoehlBotEdit

Hi. What's up with this edit of the {{El-Hawagry et al., 2016}} template? Regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 12:27, 29 October 2017 (UTC).

OOoops, thanks for telling, Ill lok into that. Dan Koehl (talk) 12:59, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Strange @Tommy Kronkvist:, but that was back in February, I hope you have not seen any recent edits like that? Dan Koehl (talk) 13:02, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Nope, neither any old nor more recent – that's the only one I've come across so far. But I'll of course ping you if I find another. Perhaps we should check the KoehlBot logs for February template edits, just to make sure? –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:11, 29 October 2017 (UTC).
There are of course a huge amount of logged edits to check… Since this particular edit was made in February 16 I settled for checking the 20,000 or so February 14 to February 18 logs, and in that span there are no other pages being blanked by KoehlBot. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:57, 29 October 2017 (UTC).
@Tommy Kronkvist:, This is very strange. The edit is dated as of 01.35 at 16th of Feruary, see Revision as of 2017-02-16T01:35:51, ut when checking the log for that time , at contributions log The bot was inactive between 2017-02-15T23:57:49 and 2017-02-16T00:10:00 as far as I can see... I dont understand this? Dan Koehl (talk) 14:02, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
I see thousands of edits during that time, including the "(-847)‎ .. Template:El-Hawagry et al., 2016 (using AWB)" blanking: As far as I can see it was not inactive. Perhaps you need to clean your browser cache or something? In either case it's a very exotic edit – all the other edits have rather descriptive edit summaries, but this one only says "using AWB". –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 14:27, 29 October 2017 (UTC).

User talk page archive search code syntaxEdit

Hi Dan. It seems the search function for your talk page archives doesn't work. For instance, a search for the word "patrol" doesn't generate any hits, despite the fact that the lemma is listed 67 times in the five archives. You can use my talk page as an example of a working search function if you like, were the "prefix" code string is roughly equivalent to the "archive" one in yours. However, please be aware that unlike you I do not use MABot to automatically archive my talk page. Instead I've built all my archives and the search function myself – but it doesn't include any "auto-archival" functionality. I take the opportunity to ping @MABot: here in order the make the bot operator aware of the problem. Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 14:54, 16 November 2017 (UTC).

Thanks, Tommy, I will look into this. Hopefully MABot can be redesigned. Dan Koehl (talk) 15:18, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
You're welcome. I find MABot to be a good idea, but it has often proved to be rather buggy – hence I don't use it. For instance the Village Pump archives created by the bot include the {{Archive top}} template, since it is called from the |archiveheader = {{archive top}} code snippet in the MABot section of the Village Pump page code. As a result, the "Archive top" template is automatically added by the bot to all of the VP archives (hence notifying users that the archives should not be tampered with). Oddly enough the template is not used in your talk page archives, even though you use the same call in your code? Inconsequent, to say the least. So to sum it up, the actual archiving seems to work well, but the bot is having frequent problems with some of the "extra" features… –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:18, 16 November 2017 (UTC).
Hello again. I've compared the code of your talk page to Andy Mabbett's, who also use MABot for archiving. Right off the bat I can spot two differences: Andy has included the {{archives|search=yes}} template string, and searching his talk page archive works fine. I haven't done a thorough check hence doesn't know whether this is the actual solution, but perhaps it's a starting point? Then again his archive (so far) contains one page whereas you have five, so I dunno...
Tommy Kronkvist (talk page, including 3 archives), 17:58, 26 November 2017 (UTC).

Hello. Sorry for the late reply, but notifications to my bot won't get my attention (while notifications to me will of course). I'm sorry if MABot archival is not meeting the expectations, really. All I do is to run the script provided by pywikibot suite. If it is causing issues, please let me know if you want this disabled as I don't want, of course, causing damage to the projects. If I can help with anything else please let me know as well. Thanks, —MarcoAurelio (☎ talk) 13:05, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Tommy Kronkvist and MarcoAurelio:, I followed Tommys suggestion and added {{archives|search=yes}}, as well as removing the old search field, and now it seems to be working fine. Dan Koehl (talk) 22:58, 14 December 2017 (UTC)


Fbf سبيدر (talk) 19:48, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

A job for KoehlBot?Edit

Hello Mr. bot operator! Having a look at Special:WantedPages I see that the page name "New Zealand" appears as red linked on 4,603 pages. Creating such a page is of course way out of scope of the Wikispecies project; hence I ask if it would be possible for KoehlBot to simply delete the links instead? The name of the country should of course remain intact, but IMHO the wiki link brackets surrounding it should be removed (in which case it would also automagically disappear from the "Special:WantedPages" list, as soon as the database catches up).

With the one (1) exception by Franz Xaver used in Wikispecies:Village Pump/Archive 36#Fait accompli, all of the remaining 4,602 instances are explicitly only used on taxon page talk pages, and solely relate to the geographical distribution of the different taxa. The NZ links were all created in good faith by Thorpe, but regardless of good intentions they are of course still out of scope. –Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 17:57, 24 February 2018 (UTC).

Sounds easy @Tommy Kronkvist:, I will give it a try within hours. But I will try it out on my own account, before running on bot. :) Dan Koehl (talk) 18:14, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Whatever floats your boat, as long as the job gets done… :-) Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 18:45, 24 February 2018 (UTC).
Ill go through a number of the files from the list manually @Tommy Kronkvist:, please help me go through the edits, in order to see that the changes comes out correct, so I can let bot take over. Dan Koehl (talk) 19:55, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Seems that the word "etc." is used as a comment after a couple of line breaks, this seems irrelevant, Ill delete those "etc." as well. Dan Koehl (talk) 20:04, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Indeed. Also, the phrase [[New Zealand]] Species is used fairly frequently, and should perhaps be changed to New Zealand species (with lowercase "species" as well as link removal). A small thing, but still. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 20:13, 24 February 2018 (UTC).

───────────────────────── I've checked all of the 101 "NZ link" edits you've made so far, and they all look alright to me. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 20:22, 24 February 2018 (UTC).

Yes they do, now Im just trying to filter out where Species starts with a capital EXCEPT for when Species starts a sentence, like in Talk:Gnaphalopoda. Dan Koehl (talk) 20:27, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
I believe its working now @Tommy Kronkvist:, with regex: (?<!=\s)(?<!\=)(?<!\*\s)Species it filter out all words (Species) written with capital, unless they appear after a *(space), or after a =(space), or after a =. Now checked 200 edits, they look allright. Will soon relase the bot. Dan Koehl (talk) 21:47, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Sounds good. I'm no longer as fluent in regular expressions as back in the days, but I still use them fairly frequently (though seldom for Wikimedia purposes). I often tend to mix up Perl specific syntax with the POSIX ditto, but luckily the differences are small and these days there are good software tools that can help out (which I guess also is the reason for me forgetting some of the regex patterns...) In order to spot any unlikely errors I'll randomly check out your AWB/KoehlBot edits throughout the next couple of days, but as you said earlier it's a fairly straightforward job that shouldn't pose any real problems for a well structured bot. Thank you for your good work. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 00:28, 25 February 2018 (UTC).

Editing other peoples' talk page contributionsEdit

I'm not sure about the norms on wikispecies,but on, we don't edit other people's talk page contributions as you did here. Was there a point you were trying to make? Stuartyeates (talk) 03:12, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Hello @Stuartyeates: The reason is that the "New Zealand" link is out of scope for Wikispecies: it's a type of page that should never be created here at Wikispecies, since it has nothing to do with taxonomy or biological nomenclature, and Wikispecies is not Wikipedia. The deleted red link on your talk page is one of 4,600 "New Zealand" links deleted during the past few days. Most of them were deleted by automated bots, and other similar out-of-scope links are frequently deleted as well. Please read the presently ongoing discussion Special:Wanted pages at the Wikispecies' Village Pump for more information about this specific issue. –Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 09:43, 25 February 2018 (UTC).
Dear @Stuartyeates:, I am sorry if you felt bothered, and I understand, normally we dont change other peoples talk pages on Wikispecies. I hope that @Tommy Kronkvist: description of the cleanup of gave you an explanation as to why I removed the link brackets [[New Zealand]] from red linked New Zealand on your talk page. Please also see relevant discussions on the Village pump. Dan Koehl (talk) 11:20, 25 February 2018 (UTC)


Thank you for reverting my edit. I will not add words (unless they are taxons, etc.) to pages. :) GermanGamer77 (talk) 18:35, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Invitation to join the Ten Year SocietyEdit


Thanks for the invitation. I'm missing in the list Accassidy and MariusM PeterR (talk) 14:11, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes, @PeterR: they are missing on that list, Mariusm has already been invited, but he hasnt put the userbox on his user page, and Accassidy will be invited this year in November. Dan Koehl (talk) 08:15, 10 March 2018 (UTC)


Oops! I apologize for the edit. How do you place images in correctly, so I don't make that mistake again? GermanGamer77 (talk) 19:01, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

@GermanGamer77: Pictures should always be placed at the very top of the page, i.e. on the first line in the page code. For more information please read Help:Contents, and on this particular topic especially the subsection Help:Image Guidelines. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 08:47, 21 March 2018 (UTC).

Can you help me?Edit

Hi, Dan... I don't speak English, only Portuguese... But, I need to request to deletion this page: Automeris cogena; is a misnomer of Automeris eogena. I'm also incurred in this mistake after see this PDF file, after visit the Wikispecies page of Automeris cogena (please, see Google results): is a consequence of wrong reading for low resolution files.

Sorry my very, very, very bad English, and thanks if you can help me. André Koehne (talk) 03:26, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

  Done. I also requested the deletion of its Wikidata page (Q21258657). –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 09:13, 26 July 2018 (UTC).


Hej Dan. Häromdagen sände jag ut ett e-brev via till våra admins. Det visade sig se ut som en mild katastrof, eftersom alla länkar i meddelandet av någon för mig okänd anledning blev dubblerade i mejlet. Dessutom försvann en hel massa radbrytningar, som annars var tänkta att ge mer "luft" i texten. Jag har meddelandet sparat även som en PDF-fil, men undrar huruvida du känner till om man överhuvudtaget ens kan bifoga bilagor via e-postlistan? Det kan ju variera lite beroende på vilken typ av mjukvara som rullar på e-postservern, och det känns dumt om det "förtydligande" jag eventuellt skickar visar sig komma fram som rappakalja igen... 🙄 Mvh, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 11:59, 8 August 2018 (UTC).

Oj, det har jag aldrig testat, såjag har inga ideer om vad som kan ha gått fel. Jag fick nog aldrig det där mailet. Däremot tog jag bort din icloud eftersom du anmält unsubscribe notification. Dan Koehl (talk) 12:23, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
Jag fick mejlet kanske en halvminut efter att jag skickat det, fast jag är egentligen inte någon större vän av e-postlistor så kanske jag gjorde fel i samband med själva utskicket. Det verkar nästan så. Det finns ju ett arkiv med e-postlistans alla sända mejl, och där finns mitt med. I arkivet kan man också läsa Alans svar till mig, men svaret har fortfarande inte dykt upp i min mejl... Kort sagt är nånting knas, men jag vet inte vad. :-) Dessutom är arkivet helt textbaserat och således utan bilder, PDF-filer eller annat sånt ögongodis, och det är därför jag misstänker att man inte kan skicka med bilagor. För att försöka verifiera det besökte jag Mailmans supportsidor men hittade inget matnyttigt – därav min fråga till dig. Å andra sidan så listas ju alla involverade e-postadresser om man väljer "List members" på inloggningssidan, så är det någon som frågar kan de ju få filen i ett "vanligt" e-brev från mig, om de vill. Jag skickar det till dig nu, så har du bakgrundsdata ifall samma användare ställer till bekymmer igen.
Angående min unsubscribe så ja, det är riktigt. Tack för att du tog bort den adressen. Det visade sig att jag hade registrerat två adresser som är kopplade till ett och samma e-postkonto, och det kan gott räcka med att bara få ett exemplar av utskicken tycker jag...
Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:46, 8 August 2018 (UTC).

Redirect UtilityEdit

Hej Dan. Jag har svarat på ditt inlägg om "Redirect Utility" på administratörernas anslagstavla. I anslutning till den diskussionen kan du gärna också ta en titt här: User talk:Franz Xaver#Edittools där Xaver, Orchi och jag diskuterar ett liknande tema. Mvh, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:31, 26 September 2018 (UTC).

By the way I think I might have brought user friendliness to a new level, all thanks to an edit made by you a few weeks ago... :-) Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 01:47, 1 October 2018 (UTC).


o advance the internationalization of the project ... I propose to comment on this proposal dated 11.10.2018.--Rosičák (talk) 03:34, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

10 yearsEdit

Dan, Happy to be added. Will you do it? Alan
:  Done, Dan Koehl (talk) 19:17, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Accassidy (talk) 19:31, 27 November 2018 (UTC)


Good day Dan Koehl,
I wish you festive holidays and for the year 2019 all the best for you.
May bring us all the new year a peaceful coexistence.
Best greetings. Orchi (talk) 17:37, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Blockering och avblockeringsmallEdit

Hej Dan. Ta gärna en titt här User talk:GermanGamer77#Warning 2 angående en evighetsblockering som du initierade den 16 januari. Utifrån användarens cross-wiki historia på frWP och enWP kan jag tänka mig att blockeringen fortfarande behöver vara kvar. Mina kunskaper i franska inskränker sig till sånt som rör mat, vin och fyndorter för killis i västafrikanska tidigare franska kolonier, men jag har läst en del av hans inlägg på enWP och flera av dem är synnerligen otrevliga. Kanske borde man ändå ge en ytterligare förklaring till läget här på Wikispecies, eftersom användaren åtminstone "på papperet" försöker visa ånger? Dessutom är det ju så att den {{unblock}}-mall du hänvisar till i blockeringsmeddelandet till användaren inte ens finns. Den saken måste vi förstås också ta tag i, alldeles oavsett just denna användare och hans synpunkter.

Sist på sin diskussionssida påtalar användaren att han behöver en sandlåda till användarkontot, för att kunna utföra lite förarbeten kring en sida om en spindelart han vill skapa. Den sidan har jag precis skapat, så någon sådan låda behöver han inte längre... Med vänlig hälsning, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 06:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC).

Thanks @Tommy Kronkvist:, I agree that the {{unblock}}-template must be made. As for the case with that user, do you think it needs any certain measures? It seems his discussion page is functional, which at the moment probably is enough? Dan Koehl (talk) 11:28, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Well, even though the {{unblock}} template is inoperative the user obviously wants us to reconsider the indefinite block. (I only saw their request by mere coincidence while checking up on unpatrolled edits, so we need that template up and running.) I feel that their request must be dealt with in one way or another. Even if it may be too early (?) to unblock just yet, simply ignoring the request is unprofessional, probably against Wikimedia policy, and quite frankly also a bit rude. As for "any certain measures", I'm undecided, but opening up a discussion on their talk page to clear up any misconceptions and tie up any loose ends will probably be a good enough start. As for the user's request to have a private sandbox I say nah, that seems unnecessary as long as the user account is blocked. If and when the user is unblocked they can create such a sandbox themselves, but until then the block should also subsume any user account subpages.
Lastly, if we decide to unblock we should also have a look at the similarly named user accounts GermanGamer1, GermanGamer7, and Germangamer42 (links to their Global Account Information, respectively). Those accounts are probably unrelated but for the sake of the matter we might just as well keep an eye out. Then again, I guess we always do... Regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:36, 14 March 2019 (UTC).
@Tommy Kronkvist:, Its of course easy to block the user. If you think its worth a try, I have nothing against an unblocking, to give the user a chance to produce anything constructive, apart from taking time from the community, by trolling different user pages. And if, and when the user starts trolling again,without making any valuable constributions, its easy to block again.? Dan Koehl (talk) 15:48, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Indeed. You make the call – however bear in mind that starting at lunch tomorrow I will be offline and out of town most of the weekend doing other work, and will not be here as an active patroller during that time... :-) Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 15:53, 14 March 2019 (UTC).


Please grant this user auto-patrol rights. We can trust his edits and he has hit the formats button very quickly. Best regards Andyboorman (talk) 21:34, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

  Done Dan Koehl (talk) 13:11, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks he is a real published expert in his field! Andyboorman (talk) 14:09, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Interface adminshipEdit

Hi Dan! Since you're one of the bureaucrats that did not partake in the voting, could you please have a look at this interface adminiship request? Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:34, 21 December 2019 (UTC).

RfC closureEdit

Hi Dan! Please have a look at Andy's request at Administrators' Noticeboard# Citation template RfC: closure needed. If you feel up for it, I figure you're one of the admins best suited for the task since you did not take part in the actual RfC discussion hence may be considered more impartial and "neutral" than the rest of us. In all events: stay safe! Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 21:41, 14 April 2020 (UTC).

Chroicocephalus novaehollandiae scopulinusEdit

Hallo Dan, Why is this subspecies Chroicocephalus novaehollandiae scopulinus (wikidata: Q27608860) not linked to /the same as wikidata item Red-billed Gull (wikidata:Q76472)? What went wrong? --Hwdenie (talk) 09:41, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

I moved 14 languages from Q76472 to Q27608860. How to delete Q76472? --Hwdenie (talk) 07:06, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Great, well done @Hwdenie:. Either report to be deleted, or, if its empty it can possibly used for another item. In a short while, I can look into this. Dan Koehl (talk) 07:25, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. I assume you do the rest. I don't feel qualified in deleting of changing wikidata items. --Hwdenie (talk) 07:43, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Adding a blank lineEdit

Hi Dan, Can you explain why you are recently inserting a blank line on author pages between DEFAULTSORT:xxx, xxxx and

Category:Taxon Authorities using the AWB. Is there any good reason for this? Kempf EK (talk) 14:02, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

I've actually been pondering this myself for some time. Even though {{DEFAULTSORT}} is a "magic word" rather than a category, in reality the only thing it really does is set a default Category Sort Key for the author page. In my opinion, because of this it belongs together with the other categories, rather than in a section of its own. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:54, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
(restoring) Actually, AWB genfixes do the exact opposite of the changes made by Dan. Anyway, I see no point in doing such cosmetic edits en masse either. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:37, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
This seems to be long ago in the past. I have not used AWB for some years on WS. Dan Koehl (talk) 23:29, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Interface admin requestsEdit

Hello Dan. Since you didn't participate in the discussions/voting and the voting has been going on for more than seven days, could you please finalize the two interface admin requests at Wikispecies:Interface administrators? Thanks beforehand! Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 11:31, 14 April 2021 (UTC).

Invitation for Functionary consultation 2021Edit


I'm letting you know in advance about a meeting I'd like to invite you to regarding the Universal Code of Conduct and the community's ownership of its future enforcement. I'm still in the process of putting together the details, but I wanted to share the date with you: 27 June, 2021. I do not have a time on this date yet, but I will let you soon. We have created a meta page with basic information. Please take a look at the meta page and sign up your name under the appropriate section.

Thank you for your time.--BAnand (WMF) 15:06, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Administrator poll endedEdit

Hello Dan. Since you didn't participate in the discussions/voting and the voting has been going on for more than seven days, could you please finalize the proposal regarding DannyS712’s administratorship? Thanks beforehand!

The reason I don’t finalize the request myself is that I was the one who nominated DannyS712 in the first place. Please note that I've sent this same message to all of the other uninvolved bureaucrats as well. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 21:51, 14 July 2021 (UTC).

God fortsättning!Edit

Hej Dan. Såg dig i televiserad form i dag, helt kort och ganska oväntat. Hoppas allt är bra med dig. Mvh, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 14:43, 25 December 2021 (UTC).

Ganska bra, men fast Kambodja sedan Coronan, med utganget, sedermera stulet pass, och utan visum, lite struligt, och nyss stangde sv ambassaden har. "televiserad", var det nagot pa TV menar du, Skansen eller Kolmarden kanske? Glada Julhalsningar till dig. Dan Koehl (talk) 14:46, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
Ojoj... Covid-19 hade jag förra året och passet förlorade jag i Indien en gång för många år sedan, men annars tycks du ligga före vad gäller det övriga eländet. :-) Angående TV så var det någon "dokumentär" om Lili & Susie. Inte alls min musik och jag såg bara en kort snutt medan jag försökte zappa mig fram till World Grand Prix-finalen i snooker. Men av en händelse råkade jag se just de kanske fem sekunder då du blev intervjuad angående Skansens elefanter. Du såg lite yngre ut då – fast det gjorde vi väl alla i och för sig. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 15:17, 25 December 2021 (UTC).

Svenska översättningarEdit

Hej. Det tycks ha gått troll i min cerebrala minnesbank, men jag kan inte komma på hur de svenska översättningarna för exempelvis "junior homonym" (d.v.s. "later homonym") samt "senior homonym" (d.v.s. "earlier homonym") lyder. Detsamma gäller flera liknande begrepp. De sammansatta orden är oftast okomplicerade (ex.v. "paralectotype" = "paralektotyp") men fraser med två eller flera ord (t.e.x. "junior synonym") är svårare. Detsamma gäller vissa svenska begrepp där jag har svårt att hitta de engelska motsvarigheterna. Vad heter till exempel "underordnad subjektiv synonym" på engelska? Jag försökte titta efter i ICZN och liknade, men utan framgång. Har du tillgång till en bra översättning/lista över dessa begrepp, så kan jag lägga till dem i Wikispecies:Ordbok (som i sitt nuvarande utförande för övrigt är väldigt undermåligt översatt från engelskan). God fortsättning på det nya året! Mvh, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 17:56, 3 January 2022 (UTC).

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