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Morales disambiguation page wanting

Dear Tommy, could you please help to create the disambiguation page for synonymic now taxon Morales (Morales Mart., Consp. Regn. Veg.: 14. 1835), which is coincided with Morales authority. Or to do something else? Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 09:56, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Dear Anna, My plan is to change the current Morales page into an author disambiguation page (example: Correa (disambiguation), and then create a new "Morales" page for Morales Mart., Consp. Regn. Veg.: 14. 1835. However it may take some time since there are 24 taxon pages that links to the current "Morales" page. The links are not for taxa, instead they are all unresolved author names. I need to correct the author links on all of those 24 taxon pages first, so that they are linked to the correct author pages (for example Clare F. Morales instead of Morales on the Basilioterpa page). Otherwise all of those 24 author links will link to the new Morales Mart. taxon page (when created), which would of course be incorrect. Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist, 18:40, 16 August 2022 (UTC).

Thank you - no rush! But only you have the power to be magic with such edits)) Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 19:57, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello again, Anna. I have now (finally…) corrected all of the 24 taxon pages I mentioned above, so in theory it would now be okay to move the current "Morales" page to a new Morales (disambiguation) page, listing all of the authors. The "Morales" page name would then become available as a taxon page for Morales Mart., Consp. Regn. Veg.: 14. 1835.

However, as far as I can see Morales Mart., Consp. Regn. Veg.: 14. 1835 is still considered a synonym of Rosales Bercht. & J.Presl, Přiroz. Rostlin 231 (1820). I'm not a botanist so I may be wrong about the current taxonomical situation/synonymy, but here at Wikispecies we usually don't create taxon pages for synonyms. Perhaps my fellow administrator and botanist @Andy Boorman can help us out with this discussion? Kindly, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 18:02, 11 October 2022 (UTC).

Yes! Morales Mart., Consp. Regn. Veg.: 14. (1835) is still considered a synonym of Rosales Bercht. & J.Presl, Přiroz. Rostlin: 231 (1820) under the APG classification where Urticales and its families, are embedded under Rosales. See APGIII, Reveal, 2012 and APWebsite. Best regards Andyboorman (talk) 18:26, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

┌──────────┘ The issue is probably resolved then. I've added Morales Mart., Consp. Regn. Veg.: 14. (1835) to the Morales disambiguation page. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 21:35, 14 October 2022 (UTC).

Correction of full author's names

Dear Tommy, is it possible to ask you to correct through your magic bots the author's name Alexandre Fedorovich Bannikov to standard Alexander Fedorovich Bannikov? With thanks, Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 15:06, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Tommy, thank you. And just additional Uzbek author: A.M. Makhmedov to Akram Mamazhonovich Makhmedov. Thank you! Anna IFPNI Staff (talk) 14:40, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Anna:  Done. Only 38 edits so it was a rather quick fix. Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:31, 4 October 2022 (UTC).

You are magic! Thank you! Anna IFPNI Staff (talk) 23:27, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Dear Tommy, is it possible to help with [Olga Dmitrievna Nikiforova], which should be instead of [O.D. Nikiforova]. A lot of minor links and references, Anna IFPNI Staff (talk) 17:54, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Dear, Anna. I have moved the author page and the "Taxa by author" category. I have also changed all Wikispecies-links in any of the related pages, so all of the links that were pointed to O.D. Nikiforova now points to either Olga Dmitrievna Nikiforova or Category:Olga Dmitrievna Nikiforova taxa instead, including the links in the related reference templates. I have also changed the Wikispecies-link in Nikiforova's corresponding Q21522163 Wikidata item in order to reflect this change. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 08:53, 1 November 2022 (UTC).

Magic help! Thank you!! Anna IFPNI Staff (talk) 10:17, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Ochotona spanglei

As I understand this extinct pika has wrong authors. It should be:

†Ochotona spanglei Shotwell, 1956

I was not able to correct for some unclear reasons. Thank you in advance Hunu (talk) 12:35, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello Hunu. Thank you for the notice. It took me a long time, but now I think the Ochotona spanglei page is correct. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 02:35, 5 October 2022 (UTC).

Thank you for correction. Hunu (talk) 05:34, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Request for help

Dear Tommy Kronkvist, Could I ask ask about some help? Could you divide the File:Recherches pour servir à l'histoire naturelle des mammifères (Pl. 38B) (7093187399).jpg for 3 drawings: upper and two lower? The problem is that I have new hard disk without good picture editor. But I found unpleasant mistake in WP. The picture of Scaptonyx fusicaudus is not this species, but Crocidura attenuata. Thank you in advance Hunu (talk) 10:20, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

@Hunu: Sure, I will take care of this later today, and send you links to the new, divided pictures when ready. It may take a few hours though, since I have some "administrator stuff" to tend to first. Kind regards, –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 14:12, 19 October 2022 (UTC).

OK, Thank you. I' m looking forward. Hunu (talk) 14:24, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

@Hunu: I think the Scaptonyx fusicaudus and Crocidura attenuata pages now both have the correct images. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 18:45, 19 October 2022 (UTC).

Yes, completely correct. Thank you Hunu (talk) 19:02, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Request

Please block User:中央連線, see CA, thanks!--MCC214 (talk) 11:59, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Hello MCC214. Thanks for pointing out possible problems, but as far as I tell see user 中央連線 (edits • actions log • deleted • block log • global) hasn't yet made any edits to Wikispecies and hence shouldn't be blocked. That doesn't really matter though, since the user account was globally locked from all of Wikimedia earlier today.

For future requests please use the Administrators' Noticeboard instead. There you'll probably get a quicker response since the noticeboard is monitored by all administrators, and not only me. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 22:54, 3 November 2022 (UTC).

Shortcuts

Hello! The use of shortcuts are not prohibited or advised against, so please do not insist on changes as has been done recently. For example change shortcut rl for Repository link or ResGate for ResearchGate Publication. I use it in my edits and I will always use it because it makes editing easier, that's what they are for. I do not agree with that kind of changes, except of course if the community discusses and agrees on the abolition of these shortcuts and redirects. Regards, Burmeister (talk) 23:37, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Hello Burmeister, and thank you for your note. It's true that the community hasn't "discussed and agreed upon the abolition of these shortcuts", but on the other hand I don't remember any discussion where we decided to use them either? But that's not really the issue here, so lets move forward:

I fully understand your position, and quite frankly I agree that the shortcuts are much easier to use than the actual names of the templates. From that perspective I fully agree with you. My only objection to the use of these shortcuts is that they may make it more difficult for new users. Sure, it's a lot more time-consuming to write {{Repository link}} than the {{rl}} shortcut, but for a new user it might not at all be clear what "rl" refers to, while the phrase "Repository link" is self-explanatory and easy to understand. However: yes, I will stop changing your shortcuts in the future, since there's no community consensus in this matter. By the way I've added a {{Repository link|}} command to the MediaWiki:Edittools so now it's easier for all users to add the template to taxon pages, simply by clicking a link below the edit window (it's between the {{int:Type locality}} and {{VN|}} links).

While on the subject of irregular edits, I see that you recently made this edit to the Oxybelis wilsoni page. I find it an excellent contribution in almost every way, since you added author templates, the nice Villa & McCranie, 1995 reference template you recently created, an "Image" and "taxonbar" template, plus the "Taxa by author" categories etc, etc. Good work! There is one minor detail though, namely the leading bullet symbols in front of the holotype and type locality data in the "Name" section. That's not in line with our Help:Name section guideline. Again I actually agree with your preferred layout – I think it is more legible and looks a lot better – but as far as I know it's not something the community has agreed upon yet. (Which in a way is understandable: it's a very small detail, and we have bigger and more important issues to decide upon first.)

Again thank you very much for your contributions: I'm sure that not only me, but a lot of our users find them valuable. Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist, 05:29, 9 November 2022 (UTC).

Well, I'm not the only one that not follow "Help:Name section guideline" strictly! And if we back to the past, most of the proposals present there were not discussed by the community, or were approved by consensus or vote. If I wrong you can provide the TheVillagePump item for that discussion. That guideline is outdated, it's time to take a further discussion of page style! I will continue use bullet symbols in name section, as you say is more legible and more consistent since their use is tolerated in synonyms, I don't see why not use them in the main name too, both are lists in essence. Regards, Burmeister (talk) 10:44, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

​ I'm of course well aware that many users fail to follow some (or in some rare cases even any...) of the many guidelines. That can sometimes lead to rather noticeable problems (on the Yves Gomy page, to name one) but most often it's not that apparent. As for the preferred format recommended in the "Help:Name section guideline" I have a faint memory that we partly discussed it around the same time as our poll about the References format. But that was way back in 2015, the talks went on for months and worst of all they where not exclusively held on the Village Pump, but on several other talk pages as well. And as you say the community didn't reach a consensus and no votes were cast.

You're perfectly right that the guideline(s) are outdated and should be overhauled. One problem with that again revolves around user friendliness. I'm sure it can be quite daunting for a newly registered, unexperienced user to be faced with "help" page that lists a plethora of examples à la

{{int:Holotype}}: {{rl|SMNH|NRM}} 69501, 65.8 mm ♀ ({{a|Jerzy Prószyński|Prószyński}}, 1983)

We need to find a way around that, while still maintaining all the needed functionality. Tommy Kronkvist (talk) 10:57, 10 November 2022 (UTC).

More correction of full author's names

Dear Tommy, is it possible to ask you to correct through your magic bots the author's name Vladimir S. Kononenko to standard Vladimir Stepanovich Kononenko and Oleg Grigor'evich Kussakin to Oleg Grigorievich Kussakin? Too much edits are necessary. With thanks, Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 21:52, 17 November 2022 (UTC). (Reedited 12:36, 19 November 2022.)

​I agree – a total of 525 pages needs to be changed, so quite a lot of edits. I'll see to it this Saturday. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 03:37, 18 November 2022 (UTC). (Reedited 11:20, 20 November 2022 (UTC).)

​ Done. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 18:14, 20 November 2022 (UTC).

Magic! Thank you!!!! Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 18:31, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Need help to correct

Dear Tommy, is it possible to ask you to help me to correct the necessitated renaming of Reticulariinae to Reticulothyridinae? I confused with some links, and proposed to delete Reticulothyridinae as erroneous entry. Please help, Anna Pavlova — The preceding unsigned comment was added by IFPNI Staff (talk • contribs) 18:46, 20 November 2022.

Dear Anna Pavlova, I've moved Reticulariinae to Reticulothyridinae and added "Reticulariinae" as a subfamily on the that page. You may still need to fix the list of genera there, since after the page move I don't know if all of the listed genera are actually members of Reticulariinae, or perhaps some other subfamily of Reticulothyrididae?

I think that the whole Reticulothyridoidea superfamily may need some work. It looks somewhat outdated with old and/or incorrect Taxonavigation templates, and missing lists of species, etc. Please feel free to ask if you need any more help! Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 04:31, 21 November 2022 (UTC).

Thank you! I will check it today, Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 11:13, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Gemmellaro case

Dear Tommy, please help to resolve links (to reverse them?) from the full name Gaetano Giorgio Gemmellaro to incomplete name Gaetano G. Gemmellaro. Thank you in advance! Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 11:12, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Dear Anna, I'm not sure I understand? "Gaetano Giorgio Gemmellaro" was his ful name, was it not? In that case that page should be the "main" page (which it is), and "Gaetano G. Gemmellaro" should be redirected to "Gaetano Giorgio Gemmellaro" (which it does). There are only three pages that links to "Gaetano G. Gemmellaro", namely this talk page and two log pages by User:Korg. The same goes for the "Gemmellaro" redirect page: only the same two Korg log pages links to that page. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 15:00, 2 December 2022 (UTC).

Hooker's Journal of Botany and Kew Garden Miscellany

Notice that you have added a contribution to this taxon that has deleted all the templates that were listed in it. Now if you add a template the full page appears destroying the edition. I would appreciate it if you could correct this anomaly. Greetings.--MILEPRI (talk) 12:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

I have already solved it. It was a mistake on my part. Forgive the inconvenience.--MILEPRI (talk) 16:04, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

No problem, and nice that it got corrected. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 14:22, 2 December 2022 (UTC).

Albanian language

Hello, Tommy!
I'm an admin of the Albanian Wikipedia. Lately I was updating our homepage and I was putting a footer for it with all the Wikipedia sister projects (like most projects have). After I did that, I was checking that its links worked correctly and they all did beside the one for Wikisource and Wikispecies. The Wikispecies' link apparently leads here, which seems to be a page continously deleted and recreated. At this point I'm a bit confused: I had always thought Wikispecies was a project similar to Commons or Wikidata but apparently there are languages for it like Wikipedia? And apparently the Albanian one doesn't exist? And why is the supposedly Albanian main page for it continously recreated and deleted in the English version?
Can you help me with some information in regard to this? — Klein Muçi (talk) 06:51, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello Klein Muçi, and thank you for your message! It's true that the core of Wikispecies is supposed to be as language independent as possible (as explained on for example Meta-Wiki's Wikispecies page). However there are a few exception where we do have language-specific variations of the pages; most notably the Main Page, the Help section (and its sub-pages), the Village Pump, and a few others. But taxon pages, author pages, reference templates and other such pages related to the project's core scope (i.e. taxonomy) are always supposed to be language neutral.

The Faqja kryesore Main Page in Albanian is a sad story, one that I wish we could have sorted out a long time ago. The first version of it was created way back in 2012, but unfortunately the page has a history of being very poorly translated (most of it was almost always still in English), and on top of that it's been frequently hit by vandalism. For example, last year alone the page was reverted 27 times by either Wikispecies administrators, Global administrators, or Global rollbackers. A few of the edits was even automatically identified as harmful by the Wikimedia abuse filter and therefore automatically disallowed by our server.

Again though, having a fully translated Albanian Main Page would be most welcome, and if you want to you are free to recreate it as long as it follows the same basic format as the standard Main Page (including other language versions). The Faqja kryesore page is today semi-protected and can't be edited by unregistered or new and/or unconfirmed users, but I have taken the liberty to add you to the Wikispecies confirmed user's group. Hence the semi-protection wont pose a problem. A word of warning though, if you would like to recreate the page: many of the more "problem-ridden" Wikispecies pages are kept under a very close watch by our admins, and the new version of the page is likely to be swiftly deleted again if it's not up to standard. It might therefore be a good idea to first create it as a sub-page of your own user page (for example at User:Klein Muçi/Faqja kryesore) and use that as a "working copy". It will not be deleted and you can work on it in your own pace, and the data can then be moved/copied to the proper location once it's ready. I will be glad to help during the entire process (information, coding, templates, etc.), but sadly I can't speak any Albanian so I can't give any hands-on help with the actual translation. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:27, 25 January 2023 (UTC).

I see. So basically Faqja kryesore should just be an identic translation of Main page? Am I right? — Klein Muçi (talk) 04:47, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes. You can find the current version here: Kezdőlap. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 16:40, 7 May 2023 (UTC).

Myriospora (disambiguation)

Dear Tommy, could you please edit this page Myriospora (disambiguation), since I could not delete superfluous word 'disambiguation'. It should be applied to the descriptors of the page, but it is possibly in error remained in the name of page. I recently edited similar page Acystis, but this one is too difficult for me. The same is true for Tricystis (disambiguation), where the incorrect spelling of Yurij Ivanovich Poljansky was used. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 15:18, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Dear Anna, I will be happy to make all the necessary changes to Myriospora (disambiguation) and other pages connected to it. It must be done in the correct way, otherwise there is a risk of over-writing the current Myriospora page. Unfortunately I haven't got time to do it until tomorrow, since right now I'm going to visit my fiancée's mother. She is old and lives alone out of town, and needs help with some jobs around the house.

By the way, on the Fritz Schaudinn page. Is the cited "Zool. Jahrb., Abt. Anat." the same as "Zool. Jahrb. Abt. Anat. Ontog. Tiere", i.e. Zoologische Jahrbücher. Abteilung für Anatomie und Ontogenie der Tiere (ISSN 0044-5177)?

–Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 15:47, 18 February 2023 (UTC).

Dear Tommy: you are correct, changes are necessary. "Zool. Jahrb., Abt. Anat." is the same as "Zool. Jahrb. Abt. Anat. Ontog. Tiere". Two Schaudinn's refs were "borrowed" from somewhere in the WikiSpecies pages of taxa for further edits, since they are both not complete. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 16:13, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Eponyms OK?

Dear Tommy, I noticed a somewhat strange format of the eponym names for recently added author: Konrad Stanisław Wróblewski. Maybe you could suggest any needed action to correct/improve? Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 13:49, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Dear @Anna, I can only find Trypanosoma wroblewskii in the list of Wróblewski eponyms, and it looks fine to me. Are there any other problems you refer to, and that I have missed? –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 16:38, 7 May 2023 (UTC).

Dear Tommy, as I see now, all is OK, but it looks different at the time of my edits. Perhaps, the system was changed, and no problems are now visible. Anna IFPNI Staff (talk) 18:55, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Darienko

Dear Tommy, I need badly to rename the author's page with 77 taxa and numerous pubs: Tatyana Darienko to Tatyana Mikhailovna Darienko. Maybe you could help in any way? Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 11:18, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Dear @Anna, yes, I will take care of it during this weekend. I'm very sorry I haven't fixed all of the other author name issues you have requested the past month or so, but I've been very busy in my "offline" life. I will have all of the author name fixes done by Monday though (or earlier). Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 11:30, 5 May 2023 (UTC).

Hada

Dear Tommy, I need badly to make a separate disambiguation page for Japanese author(s) HADA and Hada (genus): Hada and now newly created Yoshine Hada. I expect more Hada authors in zoology, so a separate disamb page is needed. Maybe you could help in any way? Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 11:21, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

 Done. Dear Anna, please see the hat-note (with link) that I've added to the top of the Hada genus page. In the future more authors named Hada can be added to the new "Hada" disambiguation page. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:42, 11 May 2023 (UTC).

Dear Tommy, it is great! Thank you for support! Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 07:34, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Category:Eponyms

Dear Tommy Kronkvist,

I noticed that the second line is not working correctly in some newly created categories of Eponyms. For example Category:Eponyms of Charles Richard and Category:Eponyms of Wiktor Godlewski, but Category:Eponyms of Gustaaf Schlegel is correct. Hunu (talk) 12:45, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

I also had the same situation as above with Konrad Stanisław Wróblewski. erhaps, this is a system bug of some new names. Anna IFPNI Staff (talk) 18:14, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

@Hunu and IFPNI Staff: I can't replicate this error. Looks okay to me. Perhaps it's been corrected, or maybe I'm misunderstanding you? –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:47, 11 May 2023 (UTC).

Thank you for answer. It's nice that you notice it too Hunu (talk) 20:08, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

No: I see the following text - citation: List of eponyms of Charles Richard. This is a system bug. The working language of the page is Ukrainian. I tried a different language (French), the bug is still persisting: Liste d'éponymes de Charles Richard. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 07:39, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

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1) Error in second line

@Hunu and IFPNI Staff: In my computer, the second line in the English version of Category:Eponyms of Charles Richard says:

• List of eponyms of Charles Richard.

with a "blue" wiki link to the author page. This is as all correct, and expected. However, if I change to for example French, the text instead says:

• Liste d'éponymes de [[Charles Richard]].

and does not show a working link to the author page. Instead the bracket symbols [[ and ]] are shown onscreen, without creating a link.

Is this the problem you are referring to? Or is there any other problem too?

2) Ukrainian version

On a secondary matter in regards to @Anna's statement, I don't think there is a Ukrainian translation of this template yet. However I can create one quite easily. What would the correct Ukrainian translation be? (By the way, the Russian one is here: Template:Eponyms of person/i18n/ru.)

Of course, creating a Ukrainian version will not fix the system error, but it would be nice to have a working Ukrainian version automatically running in the near future, when the system error (or whatever error it is...) gets corrected. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:22, 12 May 2023 (UTC).

Dear Tommy, As for (1), I still see different erroneous picture in the link itself: between Richard and "]]" there is a symbol |. It is strange, but when I am copying/writing right now this citation there the link looks finally fine Charles Richard. (I never inserted this superfluous symbol | in the link, it was generated automatically by a system). This is strange and crazy looking, but in English, Ukrainian and Russian versions this bug is still persisting right now. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 09:26, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Dear Tommy, as for (2), I made a translation:

Це переклад сторінки Template:Eponyms of person/i18n, вiн готовий на 100%.

Інші мови:

Список епонімів для [[{{{1}}}]].

УВАГА: Будь ласка, не використовуйте цей шаблон безпосередньо! Це тільки для перекладу. Замість цього використовуйте шаблон {{Eponyms of person}}

Thank you! Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 09:40, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Template:J.J.Verm & Kindler, 2015

Hi Tommy, the template was quite a stub. You could use https://bibliorchidea.com/ in order to create complete templates regarding orchid literature. Unfortunately it is not updated anymore as Jenny passed away. Best wishes Badlydrawnboy22 (talk) 19:06, 15 May 2023 (UTC)