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Хадижат Магомедовна Саидова
editHello, I want to create a page for a Russian author, can you please give a translation in english of the full name of this author: ru:Саидова, Хадижат Магомедовна? Christian Ferrer (talk) 19:20, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- No problem: Khadizhat Magomedovna Saidova (1925—2022). Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 19:36, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Great, thanks you Anna, I will create the page soon. Christian Ferrer (talk) 19:52, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Done: Khadizhat Magomedovna Saidova Christian Ferrer (talk) 04:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- I just edited Saidova's template of her 1981 monograph with full bibliographic data and free access link to the Google Books. Thank you for adding important zoo former Soviet monographs to WS! Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 21:22, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Done: Khadizhat Magomedovna Saidova Christian Ferrer (talk) 04:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Great, thanks you Anna, I will create the page soon. Christian Ferrer (talk) 19:52, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Salvia helped needed please
editPlease have a look at sect. Sogdosphace. WS places this section in Salvia subgen. Sclarea, but Turdiboev & Turdiboev (2021) seem to place it in Salvia subgen. Salvia. Unfortunately, the prototogue has become a broken link and also the originator of the page is no longer active. There are a number of confusions across the infrageneric circumscriptions of this genus and I am trying to untangle them as far as I can. Thanks for your help. Andyboorman (talk) 18:32, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I corrected a link to the journal paper with a free access (Kamelin & Makhmedov, 1980). Turdiboev & Turdiboev (2021) is workable link, OK? IFPNI Staff (talk) 22:48, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- In the Q104580160 Wikidata item one of the authors are called "Turginov Orzimat Turdimatovich", with a link to this external reference. According to that reference "Turginov Orzimat" is the given ("first") name, and "Turdimatovich" is the family name. Surely that's wrong?!
- If I understand it correctly, for the author Orzimat Turdimatovich Turginov, "Orzimat" is the given name, "Turdimatovich" is a patronym, and "Turginov" is the family name. Or am I wrong? Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC).
- Yes, I corrected WikiData and WS files about this Uzbek botanist; one page was superfluous and recommended to be deleted from WS. IFPNI Staff (talk) 23:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Do you know if it has been deleted yet? If not, I can instead merge it into Orzimat Turginov (Q26713418) (with the correct data, of course) in order to maintain all of the page history and inter-wiki links. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC).
- Yes, your help is needed for WS - I placed old page in a basket for deletion. And for WD too. IFPNI Staff (talk) 23:43, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Do you know if it has been deleted yet? If not, I can instead merge it into Orzimat Turginov (Q26713418) (with the correct data, of course) in order to maintain all of the page history and inter-wiki links. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC).
- Yes, I corrected WikiData and WS files about this Uzbek botanist; one page was superfluous and recommended to be deleted from WS. IFPNI Staff (talk) 23:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am finding it very difficult to find a workable DJVU converter. Can anybody help? Andyboorman (talk) 14:40, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- There are lots of DjVu converters out there but – as I guess you've found out – almost all of them render bad results and/or are rather pricey. Also, most of them are web-based online services, and personally I don't feel comfortable uploading licensed, copyrighted or perhaps yet unpublished material to web servers I have no control over.
- If I understand it correctly, for the author Orzimat Turdimatovich Turginov, "Orzimat" is the given name, "Turdimatovich" is a patronym, and "Turginov" is the family name. Or am I wrong? Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC).
- Instead, for many years my go-to DjVu converter (as well as DjVu viewer) has been DjVuLibre. It's not the most beautiful piece of software out there, but it's free to use and installs locally on almost any computer: Macintosh, Windows as well as Linux machines. Also, it's maintained and updated by the same gang of programmers who originally developed the actual DjVu file format, almost 30 years ago.
- However, there are some caveats. Viewing DjVu files is very straight forward, but when exporting them to for example PDF one must often fiddle with the settings quite a bit in order to get a good result. Also, the end result is often a huge file. A small 5 or 10 megabyte DjVu file can easily result in an 80 to 100 megabyte PDF file, at least if it contains a lot of illustrations. That's not due to any shortcomings of the DjVuLibre software though: rather, it's the hallmark of the DjVu file format itself. It's often quirky to work with, but can render high quality material in very small files. PDF is quite the opposite: easy to handle, but it often produces fairly large files.
- Last note: the DjVu format and DjVuLibre program is developed by a bunch of French (and French Canadian) guys. Hence the name: déjà vu. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:31, 13 August 2024 (UTC).
- THanks Tommy I will look into DjVULibre. Andyboorman (talk) 20:03, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot the programme worked very well and it was quick leaving a reasonable sized file. Highly recommended I think a link on the pump might be appropriate, what do you think? In addition, although I can not read Russian, it seems pretty clear that Salvia sect. Sogdosphace belongs in Salvia subg. Salvia not subgen. Sclarea. I have made the corrections. Best regards. Andyboorman (talk) 13:51, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- It is great that DJVU links become easy for WS editors. Maybe it is appropriate to write any recommendation in the WS Pump for other editors? Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 19:58, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot the programme worked very well and it was quick leaving a reasonable sized file. Highly recommended I think a link on the pump might be appropriate, what do you think? In addition, although I can not read Russian, it seems pretty clear that Salvia sect. Sogdosphace belongs in Salvia subg. Salvia not subgen. Sclarea. I have made the corrections. Best regards. Andyboorman (talk) 13:51, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- THanks Tommy I will look into DjVULibre. Andyboorman (talk) 20:03, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Last note: the DjVu format and DjVuLibre program is developed by a bunch of French (and French Canadian) guys. Hence the name: déjà vu. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:31, 13 August 2024 (UTC).
Superfluous Wikidata Turginov page, continued: Do you remember the name of the Wikidata page, or the item number? (Example: Q104580160.) Otherwise it will be very hard for me to find the page. Wikidata often have many page deletion requests, and they are generally not listed by name, only the "Qxxxxxxxxx" number.
I could not find it in the deletion logs, nor in the log of your Wikidata edits: I think that some of that data is hidden for me.
But maybe you can see it, and add the link here? You will find your Wikidata edit history here.
–Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 00:08, 13 August 2024 (UTC).
- Dear Tommy, perhaps, I had in mind the WS superfluous page, which I proposed for deletion/re-routing. It was too late at night to go to further editing of WD, therefore, the WD was left for further edits with no formal proposal now. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 19:57, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Gender in Taxa authored
editHello Anna, the default gender in Template Taxa authored is m = masculine. So the addition of g=m is unnessecary. Kind regards, Thiotrix (talk) 07:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! I really overlooked this. Anna IFPNI Staff (talk) 19:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- We all do small mistakes, sometimes. That's only natural. However, the vast majority of your edits are correct, and very, very welcome contributions to Wikispecies. Thank you for that, Anna! Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 01:39, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
- While we're here actually, I think the template can now fetch gender data from Wikidata, so it might not be necessary to add even g=f anymore? Monster Iestyn (talk) 10:39, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Best idea! I agree. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 14:57, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Monster Iestyn: You're correct, and I agree. However, some of the author entries in Wikidata are missing gender information, and then it will not work. It's therefore a good idea to always also check the respective author page on Wikidata, and make sure that the Wikidata property P21 "sex or gender" is set to either female or male for each author. In some rare cases this can be tricky, since some given names are used by both men and women, for example Maria (Q325872) (female given name) and Maria (Q25413386) (male given name).
–Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 07:06, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
- @Monster Iestyn: You're correct, and I agree. However, some of the author entries in Wikidata are missing gender information, and then it will not work. It's therefore a good idea to always also check the respective author page on Wikidata, and make sure that the Wikidata property P21 "sex or gender" is set to either female or male for each author. In some rare cases this can be tricky, since some given names are used by both men and women, for example Maria (Q325872) (female given name) and Maria (Q25413386) (male given name).
- Best idea! I agree. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 14:57, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Most redirects should be kept
editHello,
I disagree with this edit, as well as with your recent tagging for deletion of redirects, even if they contain a misspelling or a typographical error. The purpose of redirects is to help the reader or the editor find the correct page. If there is a name with a misspelling or a typographical error in a publication, and if it is a plausible search term, then it would be perfectly acceptable to have a redirect with the misspelling, to direct the reader or the editor to the page with the correct name (and to inform them of the error incidentally). These redirects are not "unnecessary".
The spelling "Blatter für Kakteenforschung" appears in IPNI as well as in several publications. The misspelled name Michaelsarsia adriaticus appears in various publications and websites. This is also the case for all redirects you have recently marked for deletion and those that have recently been deleted. (Pinging Thiotrix, Andyboorman and Neferkheperre to inform them of the discussion.)
For information, on Wikipedia, in most cases such redirects are not deleted; please see en:Template:R from misspelling.
Also, before requesting deletion of a page, please check whether the page has any pages linked to it, using the "What links here" link in the toolbox (e.g., Special:WhatLinksHere/Riviera Scientifique). If it is the case, it is a good practice to correct them.
Thank you for contributions and for updating the pages! Best regards, Korg (talk) 21:34, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Dear colleague,
- thank you for your opinion and criticism. But I would like to explain my edits in order to let you know my disagreement with just simple redirections in WS. As you know, WS is mostly an aggregator of data from various databases, and therefore it lists numerous mistakes, lapsus and orthographical mistakes from previous editors of other data bases. When Editor, like me, is professional in some aspects of bibliography or botany science, he will never copypast data from IPNI or IFPNI, or AlgaeBase, etc. without critical review of the data. So, I never will use Landon instead of London, Bёrlin instead of Berlin, and will propose to leave them as orthographical errors by redirections; so the names of serials with orthographic errors like "Blatter für Kakteenforschung" or Kaktusy; Zpravodaj Svazu Ceskych Aktusaru. Brno (should be: Kaktusy Subtitle: Zpravodaj Svazu českých kaktusářů - feel the difference of barbarous names, no Aktusaru exists in world!), etc. could not alive: I notified IPNI, from which the WS imported these awkward data, to correct them - please check again, IPNI should eliminate these errors shortly, today or tomorrow. So, these lapsuses would not alive in the original database, and there is no need to use your redirections to keep them. WS is not a repository of lapsus and fake data (Landon instead of London), so I strongly disregard with your policy to keep such kind of data instead of corrections and eliminations of errors. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 13:42, 22 October 2024 (UTC)