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Botanists vote to remove racist reference from plants’ scientific names
editStory in The Guardian:
Original proposal:
Discussion on Wikipedia:
-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Meanwhile all plant species with the original (insulting) epithets "caffra", "caffrum", "caffer" have been renamed by IPNI and POWO to "afra", "afrum" or "afer". The c-words are treated as correctable orthographical variants. Wikispecies and Wikidata need to be updated. --Thiotrix (talk) 08:30, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Peter Schmidt: Possible Duplicate
editAre Peter Schmidt (arachnologist) and Peter Yulievich Schmidt the same person?
Please see discussion at Talk:Peter Schmidt (arachnologist). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:29, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, this is the same person. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 20:12, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Merged. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
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Vote now to fill vacancies of the first U4C
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Measles morbillivirus -> Morbillivirus hominis
editPlease see discussion at Talk:Measles morbillivirus#Morbillivirus hominis. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:41, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Every single virus species has been renamed in the last 4 years. The ICTV has adopted the system of binomial nomenclature (see the proposal and Article 3.21 of the nomenclatural code) long used for other organisms. Previously virus species names could be any number of words (not exactly two), and didn't necessarily contain the name of the genus (and when the genus name was included it was usually the last word in the species name, not the first).
- The 2023 ICTV taxonomy release (published in June 2024) is the first release to have completed (?) the changeover to binomial species names. (I'm not certain it is complete, but I haven't come across any non-binomial species in it, and the previous ICTV taxonomy release had many non-binomials). Plantdrew (talk) 17:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've moved Measles morbillivirus to Morbillivirus hominis, per the references. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 07:53, 31 July 2024 (UTC).
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Request robot work: Add Chinese name for Chinese plant authors
editA paper published on Biodiversity Science provides Chinese names for all botanical authors from China.[1] I would suggest adding the Chinese names on their Wikispecies pages. Interaccoonale (talk) 02:36, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
References
- ↑ 杜诚; 刘军; 刘夙; 马金双 (2022), "中国植物分类学者的历史与现状", 生物多样性, 30: 22355, doi:10.17520/biods.2022355
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Citrus limonia VS. Citrus limon
editPlease see discussion at Talk:Citrus × limon#Redirect is not appropriate. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:34, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Category:Series identifiers revisited
editAs a followup to Wikispecies:Village Pump/Archive 65#Category:Series identifiers, I have moved everything in Category:Series identifiers (except Category:ISSN) to Category:Sources. If nobody objects for whatever reason, I would suggest deleting Category:Series identifiers and moving Category:ISSN to either Category:Sources or Category:Journals, depending on what Wikispecies users prefer. Monster Iestyn (talk) 14:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- If you are moving ISSN then they are journals I guess. Andyboorman (talk) 19:24, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
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Merge two pages, advice
editWhat's a good way to merge the content of these two pages? I want the content of what should become the defunct tribe Triaenonychini to become integrated into the subfamily Triaenonychinae. It's little content, so i'm considering just to paste over then build on that, i'm just a little wary as over on wikipedia i frequently hit against issues of edit attribution and history merges. Sjl197 (talk) 02:00, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Next time, move the page to the new rank to preserve the history of the page. Burmeister (talk) 18:16, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Sjl197 I don't think copy+paste can be avoided for Triaenonychini/Triaenonychinae, since both pages already existed as far back as 2008. That is, not unless it's acceptable to delete Triaenonychinae so that Triaenonychini could be renamed to the subfamily title, but as far as I know it isn't? Monster Iestyn (talk) 18:50, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- You may just have to provide attribution in the edit summary, say that (while editing Triaenonychinae) you copied content from Triaenonychini. Monster Iestyn (talk) 18:57, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Farzana Perveen
editWe have no publications, associated taxa, nor authority control identifiers, for Farzana Perveen - and neither does Wikidata.
What should we do in such cases? If kept, should such pages be added to a tracking category? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:35, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- I added two identifiers in Wikidata, she is indeed an entomologist, but not only. In ORCID she says she published 113 papers + severals books but I am not able to say if she is a taxon author. Christian Ferrer (talk) 16:02, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- she seems to have published several checklists and examinations of the genetic relationships of a number of taxa. Though I can find no evidence of any new taxa or re-arrangements of existing taxa to date. Possibly only vaguely a taxon author as we define it at this point. Though she seems to be maybe working towards this in the future. So to me borderline on keep. My guess is she is establishing baselines across existing species at present and may produce new descriptions later. Not sure. Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 17:58, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've added the page to Unresolved or Unmentioned Authorities, since it has currently no links from any taxon page or reference template. Honestly, I would also be inclined to remove the page from Category:Taxon authorities at the least, since I cannot find any evidence that she authored any taxa. Given that PeterR created the page in 2017, I think this page was most likely created for one of her Lepidoptera-related articles? Monster Iestyn (talk) 19:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. That looks like what I was thinking of; though I believe it should be a category. Shall we convert it? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:00, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've added the page to Unresolved or Unmentioned Authorities, since it has currently no links from any taxon page or reference template. Honestly, I would also be inclined to remove the page from Category:Taxon authorities at the least, since I cannot find any evidence that she authored any taxa. Given that PeterR created the page in 2017, I think this page was most likely created for one of her Lepidoptera-related articles? Monster Iestyn (talk) 19:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- she seems to have published several checklists and examinations of the genetic relationships of a number of taxa. Though I can find no evidence of any new taxa or re-arrangements of existing taxa to date. Possibly only vaguely a taxon author as we define it at this point. Though she seems to be maybe working towards this in the future. So to me borderline on keep. My guess is she is establishing baselines across existing species at present and may produce new descriptions later. Not sure. Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 17:58, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- I sometimes make links to authors and their works even if they've published no "nomenclatural acts" themselves, sometimes the later combination in use has value for nomenclature to show active - even prevailing usage. Point being, i see any authors discussing species (and ergo their nomenclatural combinations) as potentially valuable for the literature, which in my mind can extend to ecology focused papers, behavioural ones etc. I'm not sure what you all feel qualifies as a "taxon authority" or not, but perhaps can be defined as having published an available taxon name (inline with ICZN etc), however, if so then i'm generally unclear from what ICZN in particular say about whether a novel later recombination is deemed a nomenclatural act or a 'taxonomic opinion', so good good luck with that. Sjl197 (talk) 01:39, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Collapse Taxonavigation
editHelp me out please, on this family level taxon Hybophthiridae it presents with the hierarchy as full, i.e. all higher taxa listed - but in families of various taxa I think this is better presented as collapsed. I would like this "Taxonavigation" also to be shown as collapsed, but no matter what I try - it won't collapse, what am I failing to do? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sjl197 (talk • contribs) 01:26, 18 August 2024 (UTC).
- Use the taxotemplate
{{Hybophthiridae}}. The magic word "taxonav" (only for templates of families) results in the collapsed taxobox. --Thiotrix (talk) 07:49, 18 August 2024 (UTC)- Thanks for the fixes - it was one of those where just got blind to what/where the error was. Cheers! Sjl197 (talk) 19:50, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Maxim Ed. Smirnov
editDoes anyone happen to know whether the Russian entomologist Maxim Ed. Smirnov (Wikidata: Q31202216) is the same person as "Maksim Eduardovich Smirnov" (Russian: Максим Эдуардович Смирнов) described here on the Beetles (Coleoptera) and coleopterists webpage? It seems most likely, but I'm not 100% sure.
A version in Russian can be found here. It contains a little more information than the English version, but unfortunately I don't speak Russian.
–Tommy Kronkvist (talk) 14:18, 18 August 2024 (UTC).
- Me neither, I don't speak Russian, but within the webpage you give, the place of birth is "Ivanovo, Russia", that matches with the affiliation given in DOI: 10.11646/zootaxa.4276.3.9. And it sound very unlikely that there are two different "Maksim E. Smirnov" both specialist of Coleoptera, both from the same time, and both from the same Russian town. Christian Ferrer (talk) 04:30, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Dear Tommy, this is the same person. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 19:46, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've now renamed the page to Maksim Eduardovich Smirnov. While we're here though, I don't think he is a taxon author at the moment (the only listed article is about phylogeny using DNA barcoding, no changes to nomenclature) so I have requested his "taxa by author" category to be deleted and removed the page from Category:Taxon authorities. Monster Iestyn (talk) 14:48, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Dear Tommy, this is the same person. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 19:46, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
To Christian Ferrer, Anna Pavlova, and Monster Iestyn: Thank you all for your help! I've now added the alternative author name spellings to the Maksim Eduardovich Smirnov page, and deleted Category:Maxim Ed. Smirnov taxa. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk),15:23, 24 August 2024 (UTC).
Cactus expert needed
editThis discussion on Commons: Commons:Village pump#Cactus_expert_needed has implications for Wikispecies. Please comment there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:44, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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