Wikispecies:Village Pump/Archive 22

Links to En:WP articles permitted?

Hi,

I don't find links to En:WP articles. Is this forbidden? AshLin (talk) 09:26, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think you mean a species page has interwiki links to Wikipedia articles, right? In this case, we welcome these links. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 23:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

these links are not forbidden, there are lots of them on our pages, but they show up on the left of the screen below the search box, and are easily overlooked Stho002 (talk) 23:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Needs more eyes

Does anyone think this user page is deletable? So far this user has pretty much done nothing constructive (and neither destructive) other than the user page. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 21:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is clear what is going on here. The user has no intention of contributing to Wikispecies, but just wants a free personal web page to rant about his life and how great but misunderstood he is. We cannot allow this. I have deleted and protected the page (reason: irrelevant and repeatedly recreated). If the user contributes some good taxon pages, then we may reconsider ... Stho002 (talk) 21:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Question about templates

Hi, I am quite new to Wikispecies and have recently done some editig on the genus Corynoptera. Wikispecies is an extremely useful tool and and I am still far away from understanding all its possibilities, especially the template features. Before going on with more species and genera of Sciaridae, I would like to know, if it is possible/desirable to create static reference templates for certain very common citatons. There are some standard papers in my special group, which will be cited in a lot of species. If once a change in the citation style was wanted or a new link became available, every single instance would have to be to be edited by hand. Under which category would such a template have to be placed eventually?

Maybe someone of the experienced users might help me to create a sample template for the reference of the following paper:

Menzel, F.; Mohrig, W. 2000(1999): Revision der paläarktischen Trauermücken (Diptera: Sciaridae). Studia dipterologica supplement, 6: 1-761.

It is cited for example on the page Corynoptera perpusilla

Thanks in advance Kheller (talk) 23:04, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that we need to develop a better structure for references, but I'm not sure that templates are the way to go. It will take some time to develop, so please continue with the status quo for now ... Stho002 (talk) 21:10, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikispecies mentioned in two recent articles in ZooKeys

Hendrich, L.; Balke, M. 2011: A simultaneous journal / wiki publication and dissemination of a new species description: Neobidessodes darwiniensis sp. n. from northern Australia (Coleoptera, Dytiscidae, Bidessini). ZooKeys, 79: 11-20. DOI: 10.3897/zookeys.79.803
Fikáček, M.; Hájek, J.; Schmied, H. 2011: On the identity of the fossil aquatic beetles from the Tertiary localities in the southern part of the Upper Rhine Graben (Coleoptera, Hydrophilidae, Dytiscidae). ZooKeys, 78: 15-25. DOI: 10.3897/zookeys.78.800

particular thanks to Lyubo Penev, Michael Balke, and Martin Fikáček ...

Stho002 (talk) 22:41, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I've installed wikt:fr:MediaWiki:Gadget-searchbox.js from wikt:pl:MediaWiki:Gadget-searchbox.js. It adds the text treatment functions: "go to line n°", "change the capitalization", "search and replace" (eventually "replace all"), and "sort alphabetically". JackPotte (talk) 20:45, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And what do you like to implement in here? OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 22:52, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To install this gadget, you should just:

Import wikt:fr:MediaWiki:Gadget-searchbox.js, wikt:fr:MediaWiki:Gadget-searchbox and wikt:fr:MediaWiki:Gadget-lib-beau.js here.
Translate the few user messages in MediaWiki:Gadget-searchbox.js into English.
Add the stuff into the preferences list, just like that.

Regards. JackPotte (talk) 17:47, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WikiGenes

Has anyone seen this site yet? http://www.wikigenes.org/ Very very slick wiki. It's not a WMF project and I realize this is off-topic here, but I think WMF can learn from this wiki, especially this project (Wikispecies) because they're similar in some ways, and they share many things in common with us. Anyways, I don't normally contribute here, just thought I'd post something and hopefully spark up some discussion. Cheers, OlEnglish (talk) 20:16, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Watchlist

Is anyone else finding that their Watchlist won't display? Mine won't, and I do not have this problem on Wikipedia or WikiSource. This has not been a problem in the past for me either. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:47, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum: I can get my Watchlist to display for a fraction of a second, but it is immediately replaced by a blank browser screen. Reloading allows me to see it for another fraction of a second, but with the same blank screen soon replacing it. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:19, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I've been getting the same problem. It first occurred a few days ago when I was using a friend's laptop in France, so I just let it go. Now its happening back home and I'm rather concerned. The Watchlist initially appears briefly, but then goes blank. At the bottom left of the screen this message appears:
"Downloading data http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/cgi-bin/geonotice.py..."
with a warning icon. Anyone out there able to help? Accassidy (talk) 14:06, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried a different browser now and this time the Watchlist page stays there but becomes unresponsive, no clicks work on any links. I wonder if the Watchlist has just got too long and something is getting clogged up. Then the problem becomes access to the list to reduce it, when the links to the edit pages don't work. Can some sysop please help with this? Accassidy (talk) 19:10, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Same problem here. If I press the escape button fast enough during (re-)loading, I can get the watchlist to display and it is responsive (which is how I saw this discussion :-). --Crusio (talk) 10:28, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Idem with Firefox, even after the "unticking" of Enable enhanced editing toolbar, which had been ticked for all by a WM developer two weeks ago. When I empty my cache I can see my Watchlist only one second before the message waiting for the toolserver.... Whereas I don't have neither any gadget nor any Mediawiki:Common.js function on it!? JackPotte (talk) 19:33, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have now tried to access the watchlist using Google Chrome, but this shows the same problem as IE8. I can't find a good time to hit the Esc button, nor should I have to. This worked properly on this same laptop with all the same browsers just 2 weeks ago. Can anyone out there with the tech knowledge help with this problem. What on earth has changed??? Accassidy (talk) 20:01, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've come across a discussion on Wikisource that indicates that MediaWiki made a software update recently (about 2 weeks ago, when the problem started). They've fixed a number of problems caused there, but I doubt anyone here has the necessary expertise to fix the Watchlist problem. Does anyone know where to request help? --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:31, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've now put a question out on the MetaWiki Wikimedia Forum, but as yet have not had any responses. Accassidy (talk) 10:11, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, you can try replacing line 531 of MediaWiki:Common.js with this:
```
importScriptURI('http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/cgi-bin/geonotice.py');
```
According to the migration guide, using the document.write() command can cause blank pages. Jafeluv (talk) 12:33, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. How do I know which is line 531? No line numbers come up in my editing window. Counting feels a bit tedious... 92.12.155.225 20:04, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/cgi-bin/geonotice.py implies that gmaxwell's account has expired. thus remove following code:

/** Geo-targeted watchlist notice *********************************************
*
*  Description: Allows for geographic targeting of watchlist notices. See [[Wikipedia:Geonotice]] for more information.
*  Created by: [[en:User:Gmaxwell]]
*/
if(wgPageName == "Special:Watchlist")
addOnloadHook((function(){document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/cgi-bin/geonotice.py"><\/script>')}));

if you still uses geonotices, replace it with:

/* Load the geonotices. See [[Wikipedia:Geonotice]]. */
importScriptURI('http://toolserver.org/~para/geoip.fcgi');
addOnloadHook(function() {
  importScriptURI( wgScript + '?title=MediaWiki:Geonotice.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&maxage=3600');
});

and create a copy of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Geonotice.js at MediaWiki:Geonotice.js. AzaToth (talk) 21:21, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, for now I've just remarked out the two lines relating to gmaxwell and put nothing else in. My Watchlist pages are now working properly again - hurrah! Thanks for the help. Hopefully, we will not need to make more changes. Accassidy (talk) 21:33, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
My Watchlist is now working as well. Thanks. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:58, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Me too, thanks! Crusio (talk) 10:17, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Different language

Penso che Wikispecies debba avere altre lingue. Aspetto pareri.Eufemia (talk) 15:57, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikispecies uses Latin and simple headers. You can customize your settings for a particular language, and the entire site will shift for you. Most of the information is in Latin.

Wikipspecies utiliza la lengua latina y titulos estandares. Es posible que customizar su browser para una lengua particular. El major de este website esta en latina. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:19, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The headers (Name, Synonyms, Vernacular names, References, etc.) are all in English and don't change with customised language use - that is surely something that could be changed easily enough? Same way that headers in Commons are done ({{int:filedesc}}, {{Information ...}}, etc.) - MPF (talk) 14:02, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why the administrators don´t create this wiki in different languages?

And I have an idea to this Wiki... why we don´t write in the article the description of the specie, size, where is found... etc... Something like this:

--Taxonomy:

--Characteristics:

-Size:

-Internal Organs:

-Reproduction:

-Relations between the specie and other species: (what they eat or what predator eat´s them...

I think it´s a good idea... Elzorro (talk) 14:10, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's not what Wikispecies was created to do. Information about size, characteristics, organs, and reproduction is covered by Wikipedia articles. Those articles do exist in many languages, and they are linked from the Wikispecies entries. Wikispecies covers only original publication, taxonomy, and classification. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:15, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thanks for the answer, but I think Wikispecies needs to separate from Wikipedia, because Wikipedia was created to History, General, Towns... articles and Wikispecies is only for the organized information of the all know species... We need maps and characteristics in the species article, to have more information to the general public... If we don´t do that Wikispecies will be just an disorganized website and sad copy of Wikipedia...

It´s just my opinion, but I think that more people have my opinion... Elzorro (talk) 20:34, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

But that would be outside the mandate of Wikispecies, which is "Wikispecies is an open, wiki-based species directory and central database of taxonomy. It is aimed at the needs of scientific users rather than general users." The key point is that Wikispecies is a taxonomic database, not an informational database. Also, Wikispecies isn't just about species taxonomy, but about all published names at all ranks, including families, orders, classes, phyla, etc. The name may be a bit misleading in that regard, but Wikispecies is about the scientific publication of names, and about the taxonomic use of those names. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:08, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple vernacular names

What is the appropriate way of including multiple vernacular names? I've seen "A OR B" as well as "A,B" as a suggestion. In other taxonomic databases, multiple lines are sometimes used - one for each vernacular names, even if that means, say, two lines for English vernacular. Sorry if this is a FAQ. I see that this has been asked before, but (at least in the places I found when searching) no good or definitive answer was given. --Sjsilverman (talk) 06:46, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Absence of any replies for several days suggests no-one cares much ;-) Vernacular names are an optional extra of low importance, a lot of species don't even include them at all - I'd not bother with adding lots of them. - MPF (talk) 23:07, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I use commas for English names in the few cases where I've edited them (and there were two or more). However, commas doesn't work well for some Eastern-script languages where it might look like part of a letter or like a diacritical mark. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:17, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FreePhyloTree

Hi guys!

I'm not very good at english, but I'll do my best. I'm develop a cladogram viewer (in C++, Qt, openGL, etcetera) using wikispecies' API. Here you can see a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HnR-4m1jFs

Each subclade is read from taxonavigation section of a particular clade by HTTP queries, so you can build any taxon, with as levels as you want. Also you can view the corresponding article from wikipedia.

But, I've many problems. For example, it's very difficult for me to extract the subclades for ALL articles, because each article is «from its own father and mother», and it exists many possible cases.

Also, I can't offer in my application the posibility of searching a vernacular name and show the correspondient clade, because I'd have to explorer all articles until I found the vernacular name in its correspondient section. Why no redirects in wikispecies?

If anyone is interested ..., I need help!!.Peregring-lk (talk) 01:24, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are redirects in Wikispecies, but only for scientific names. Wikispecies is a site to cover taxonomy: scientific names and their publications. Common names can be included on a particular page, but we do not make redirects for them. Common names can have more than one meaning, and vary from place to place even in the same language.

Taxonomy also includes uncertainty, so there will be some pages with organisms whose relationship is not yet known. That is why there is not always a strict tree structure. Sometimes, we know that a genus belong to a class, but we do not yet know which order or family. For some fossils, this question may never be answered. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:58, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

But, always this genus belong to a class, regardless we don't know the concrete taxonomic rank, the father-son relation still exists, and the tree can be building (in my app there isn't taxonomic ranks, only cladenames). I think, it could be formalized the exact localization of each subclade in each article (semantic extension?). By the way, have you seen the video? Thanks, Peregring-lk (talk) 01:24, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Classification does not always represent clades.The Bryophyta includes seven classes, but their relationships are known better than that. They are not seven equal clades. Your viewer can only convert the classification into a diagram, but not into a cladogram. Classification often is missing this information. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:20, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I know nothing about bryophytas, but, according to [1], bryophytas sensu stricto is a monophyletic group, therefore is a clade. Certainly, this kind of classification don't show, for example, that homo is more related to australopithecus than ardipithecus, because they are genera of hominina, and I guess this is what you're talking about. Even so, hominina is a clade (it contains only all its descendants), homo is a clade, australopithecus is a clade and ardipithecus also is a clade, although the internal relationship aren't shown. Peregring-lk (talk) 12:15, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I am talking about that, but also I mean that some taxonomic groups are paraphyletic. Classifications sometimes give names to paraphyletic groups, and your viewer cannot determine this. For example, superclass Osteichthyes is not monophyletic but paraphyletic. Additionally, Wikispecies is still missing major portions of the phylogeny of life. If you look at Gnathostomata (Vertebrata), you will see that Tetrapoda is listed there directly. The coelocanths and lungfish don't appear there, and they are more closely related to tetrapods than to other fish. This second problem is a problem with Wikispecies, but it will affect your viewer. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:52, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You've reason, my viewer cannot determine this, simply it's a wikispecies' mirror. But, wikispecies don't want problems, therefore, in the future wikispecies won't have its, and nor do my app. Then my app will be a cladogram viewer, because most of the scientists defend cladistics, and wikispecies says what scientists say. The idea is to improve and I suggest, at least, formalized still further the information for any automatic process. Why not extensions for semantic, for example, Semantic MediaWiki? Why not a formal method to manager multiple taxonomies of multiple authors?. Now, the information is chaotic. Peregring-lk (talk) 15:52, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I like cladistics too, but Wikispecies does not create new classifications. We only follow classifications that scientists have published and agree on. If the scientists do not change the classification, and the classification does not match cladistics, then we will not match the cladogram either. Scientists say that Tetrapoda is a clade inside Sarcopterygii, but unless there a published classification in current use, we will follow the older classification. Someone has to publish the change in a paper, then scientists have to use the classification, then Wikispecies can change the pages.

We don't have the manpower to manage multiple taxonomies by multiple authors. There are at least six published classifications of the hornworts (Anthocerotophyta), which is a small group. Most of these are radically different from each other, and would require multiple pages then for the same name. For larger groups, like angiosperms or insects, we could not manage that much information with the resources we have. Take a look at where there is a table comparing the huge differences in how that small group of angiosperms is very different between different recent authors. And most of those authors have classifications that do not match any cladogram.

Wikispecies also serves as a standard for the classifications used on Wikipedia. If we use mutliple classification systems, then there will be no standard and each Wikipedia will be different from the others. This will make it nearly impossible for Wikipedia articles to link to each other. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:59, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WikiMedia project do not make classification, but the category systems, infoboxes etc. do force us to CHOOSE between competing systems, and sometimes to resort to unorthodox positions because no consensual system actually EXISTS (i.e. where it's impossible to tell from the literature where two genera or family are separated because of constant flux and revisions). Circeus (talk) 00:21, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Zoological taxonomic nomenclature

Hi. I'd like clarification and possibly links to Wikipedia articles on the definition of abbreviations added following a species name, especially in the case of recently-discovered animals, for example "gen. et sp. nov.". Thanks. AstroSapiens001 (talk) 20:04, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, this is an abbreviation for Latinised text frequently used in taxonomic literature since the 18th century. In this case it means that the binomial name quoted represents both a new species and a new genus. "et" is the Latin for "and" while "nov." is an abbreviation of the Latin for "new". In this context "gen." and "sp." should be self-explanatory. For people regularly consulting this site, this is pretty certain to be already well known jargon. It might need further explanation on WP, but it is probably rare that anyone there uses such abbreviations. Regards, Accassidy (talk) 22:07, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To say that another way, this Latin phrase can show up in the title or abstract of a paper where a name was originally published. However, the phrase won't be used in a Wikipedia article or on a Wikispecies page (except where an article name is given), so it shouldn't be necessary to explain that information any more than other jargon that appears in the titles of papers. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:15, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Catalog of Fishes links

I think a template for links to Eschmeyer's Catalog of Fishes (like the ones we have for ITIS and FishBase) could be useful, but I don't think I have the skills to make it myself yet (not without a ridiculous number of revisions anyway). Any form of help on this would be appreciated. Koumz (talk) 17:55, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I could create a template, but I do not know the link or what information to include. I need to know that before I can help. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:55, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here is an example URL for the species pages: http://research.calacademy.org/redirect?url=http://researcharchive.calacademy.org/research/ichthyology/catalog/fishcatget.asp&tbl=species&spid=4340 and one for the genera pages: http://research.calacademy.org/redirect?url=http://researcharchive.calacademy.org/research/ichthyology/catalog/fishcatget.asp&tbl=genus&genid=5578

I'd think the FishBase templates I mentioned before would be good models for this, as it's the same sort of numerical ID system for the pages on Catalog of Fishes as is used on both ITIS and FishBase. Perhaps we can create Template:CoF species and Template:CoF genus by substituting the appropriate URLs and names into copies of Template:FishBase species and Template: FishBase genus or something along those lines. If I'm able to, I'll start on them in my userspace and then move them out for you to correct any of my mistakes. Koumz (talk) 22:51, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template: CoF species is up and appears to be fully functional. Apparently I was a quicker study on this than I expected, but thanks for the offer of help and for your questions, which were the thing that made me understand how I could do it myself. I welcome review and comment on the template page. The combination of these three sources (FishBase, ITIS, Catalog of Fishes) provides all the information necessary to build a full Wikispecies page for a fish. Koumz (talk) 23:24, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It shouldn't be necessary to have separate templates for genera and species. Looking what what you've provided, and assumiong the URL structure stays stable at the site, then it's a simple matter to use a single template for both genus and species. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:44, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's just a case of specific template wording as to why FishBase has four separate templates for links to the same site. For now I was just making the CoF links parallel with the FishBase ones. If we want to amalgamate them to one template I am fine with that, but then I would think we should amalgamate the FishBase ones the same way to stay parallel, and there may be a cross-wiki issue with that since the separate FishBase templates are currently fairly widely used on at least the English Wikipedia. I'll compare the setup of the FishBase links and see if what I see there has any effect on my judgment of the situation. Koumz (talk) 16:44, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Any combined template would have to account for the fact that both CoF and FishBase use different parameter names for different taxon levels, so each taxon level has its own set of pageID numbers and you can't just plug in a pageID number without assigning it to a particular taxon level if you want an accurate match. ITIS, on the other hand, seems to have a centralized pageID system that incorporates all taxon levels, so a single template in this case works well. Koumz (talk) 17:01, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've now created a single template for all CoF links which also includes a family level link (thanks to lots of help from others).Koumz (talk) 12:58, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Missing bacterium?

I could only find the bacterium Streptomyces thermoautotrophicus (I created the page), in a few articles, I couldn't find it on the NCBI data base or anything like that. One article states it as having an ATTC number, but it doesn't work. This is the link to the article http://www.jbc.org/content/272/42/26627.full.pdf — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paramecium13 (talk • contribs) 21:57, 14 April 2011.

Sometimes it happens. But since multiple journal papers have mentioned it, I think it's fine. We definitely welcome creating more articles on bacteria since we have few coverage in this area. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 23:24, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing

Hello,
I've edited a little of species in the past, but have mainly been involved with en.wikisource as of recent. I had an idea though; is there a public domain publication that lists (I doubt all, as PD for he US where the servers are is before 1923) many species taxonavigation? I could upload it to Wikisource and then references can be linked internally. - Theornamentalist (talk) 13:13, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand your proposal or question. What exactly are you wanting to upload? What do you mean when you say, "references can be linked internally"? We use "References" to mean the information citing where a taxonomic name was originally published. We can't link that internally. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:05, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize, I mean that at Wikisource, we could upload a publication and transcribe it. I think it would be good for stability of the reference because it would beinternal to wikimedia. I doubt that ITIS will just disappear one day, but we have the technology, we have the capability to build the reference material. An example would be how a work like s:Men-at-the-Bar (scans available here) is used to reference in Wikipedia with w:Template:Cite Men-at-the-Bar. So, something like a publication (or a few?) that could go to wikisource, and then be referenced at wikispecies - Theornamentalist (talk) 20:31, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Each source would have to be checked independently for copyright issues, and some works have had copyrights renewed. There also won't be any old works valuable for taxonavigation; classification of most groups has changed dramatically in the past century. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:59, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see, well, if by chance you come across an old but useful PD one, or a newer one released into the PD, let me know; I'd be glad to help out. - Theornamentalist (talk) 21:02, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It wouldn't be useful for Taxonavigation, but if you're looking for an important work to upload, then Linnaeus Species Plantarum (first edition, 1753) would be invaluable. It's in Latin, and a linking page exists here at Latin Wikisource. This is the official starting point for botanical nomenclature and is very heavily cited. As yet, however, the work does not exist on Latin Wikisource. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:10, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can look at the Linnaean Species Plantarum on Biodiversity Library here so it is already available in the PD. Accassidy (talk) 16:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but it's not in the much more friendly format of Wikisource, which would allow me to use an advance Google search to look through a specific work for mentions of a taxon. The PD copy you've linked to seemingly does not allow for work-specific searches in the way that Wikisource + Google does. For un-indexed works, such searches are an enormous time saver. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:56, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To verify

Could somebody check this? Ark (talk page) 20:15, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, one thing for sure is that one of them is wrong. Either the IP is wrong or the image (along with its caption and placement in the page) is wrong. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 05:52, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, in a way they might both be right about the captioning, as Papaver somniferum setigerum is listed as a subspecies in the taxonomy block. The image caption should give the trinomial to avoid conflict. Accassidy (talk) 15:59, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed to a better pic - MPF (talk) 23:39, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bots

I would like to invite all editors to take a look at two bots currently waiting for approval and give comments. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 05:35, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WMF Visita o Brasil em Junho de 2011

Wikimedia Foundation Visita o Brasil em Junho de 2011!
Em junho de 2011, Barry Newstead, a Jessie´Wild e Carolina Rossini estarao no Brasil para uma serie de atividades do Brazil Catalyst Project, reuniões, palestras e eventos. Começamos a construir a minuta da agenda nesta pagina e gostaríamos de contar com a colaboracão de vocês que contribuem com a Wikispecies!

As cidades a serem visitadas serão São Paulo (de 22 a 25 de Junho), Porto Alegre (de 28 a 30 de junho) e uma terceira (de 26 a 28 de junho) que ainda esta por decidir. A ideia era ir para Salvador, mas em funcão dos feriados para festas juninas, decidimos cancelar essa cidade e pensar em outra. Desta forma, a cidade em vista – em funcão de prováveis reuniões por la’ - e’ Curitiba, ainda por confirmar.

Desta forma, este anuncio/chamada tem o objetivo de:

CONTRIBUA COM A AGENDA: Pedir sugestões para a nossa agenda. Tais sugestões podem ser dadas na pagina de discussão da agenda
ENCONTROS COM A COMUNIDADE: Começar a organizar encontros com a comunidade de Wikipedistas e Wikimedias das cidades que vamos visitar;
WIKIPEDIA NO FISL: Pedir a ajuda de voluntários para as atividades que vamos realizar no FISL, em Porto Alegre. Alem de uma serie de palestras que estamos organizando com os coordenadores do FISL, conseguimos agendar algumas horas por dia nos computadores do FISL para dar treinamento de como editar e contribuir com a Wikipedia.

Os interessados em contribuir com os itens “ENCONTROS COM A COMUNIDADE” e “WIKIPEDIA NO FISL” podem escrever para mim no carolrossiniatwiki [at] gmail [dot] com c/c para a Jessie no jwild [at] wikimedia [dot] org e colocar seu nome, contato e disponibilidade de tempo nesta pagina.

Tais encontros com a comunidade também servirão para discutir programas na área de educacao, como dos embaixadores, e os futuros planos para o Brasil, inclusive na area de offline e mobile.

Também peco ajuda para que compartilhem essa mensagem com outros wikipedistas e com comunidades “irmas” (cultura livre, software livre, etc etc etc). Acompanhe esta pagina para futuros detalhes.--Carolrossiniatwiki (talk) 23:08, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Announcing our new community liaison

I’m delighted to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation has engaged Maggie Dennis (User:Moonriddengirl) to serve as our first Community Liaison. The Community Liaison role is envisioned to be a rotating assignment, filled by a new Wikimedian each year, half year or quarter. One of Maggie’s responsibilities is to begin to lay out a process for how this rotating posting would work.

Maggie has been a contributor to the projects since 2007 and is an administrator on the English Wikipedia and an OTRS volunteer. She has over 100,000 edits, including edits to 40 of the language versions of our projects. Her broad experience and knowledge made her a natural fit for this role.

This role is a response to requests from community members who have sometimes felt they didn’t know who to ask about something or weren’t sure the right person to go through to bring up a suggestion or issue. Her initial thrust will be to create systems so that every contributor to the projects has a way to reach the Foundation if they wish and to make sure that the Foundation effectively connects the right resources with people who contact us. If you aren’t sure who to call, Maggie will help you. Obviously, most community members will never need this communications channel - they’re happy editing, doing the things that make the projects great - but we want to make it as easy as possible for people to communicate with the Foundation.

The job of the liaison will have two major parts. First are standard duties that every liaison will perform which may include maintaining a FAQ about what each department does, making sure that inquiries from email or mailing lists are brought to the attention of appropriate staff members, etc. However, we also want liaisons to be free to pursue unique projects suited to their particular skill sets. Maggie will develop such projects in the coming weeks.

Maggie will be on the projects as User:Mdennis (WMF) and can be reached at mdennis (at) wikimedia.org. Her initial appointment runs for six months. I look forward to working with Maggie in this new role!

Philippe (WMF) (talk) 22:09, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vernacular names : VN template bug

Hi, I'm new on wikispecies and it will the first (en) where I'll contribute, so I'm still beginners here, thanks for your help & patience.

I want put some french vernacular name of different species, the problem is if it's too longer (cause of the severals number names it can be have sometime) they're a kind of space bug to the tabs.

Example here : Ceratophyllum demersum (look vernacular fr part)

The problem is if solve it by a &nbsp*; command to make insecable space it will deform the tab when other members will add more names. So what should I do, give uncomplete informations about vernacular section or deform the tabs (or else try to solve from the source it's mean from the template but I'm not enough good to dare touch it) Ʋɩṽɛ Ⱡɑ Ɍøsỉȅre !!! 19:24, 3 June 2011 (UTC) EDIT: I just saw part of the answer above (Multiple vernacular names) : "no-one care so much". Ʋɩṽɛ Ⱡɑ Ɍøsỉȅre !!! 19:31, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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