Keith Edkins

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Invitation to join the Ten Year Society

Dear Keith Edkins,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Ten Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikispecies project for ten years or more.

Best regards,

Dan Koehl (talk) 14:13, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Application for Checkuser

Referring to earlier discussions regarding a local Checkuser policy, I herebye apply to get Checkuser user rights, although we havnt reached a consensus reg Checkuser policy, but I want to give it a try if I can get the required votes. For a request to succeed a minimum of 25 support votes and an 80% positive vote are required (subject to the normal bureaucrat discretion). Requests for checkuser run for two weeks, and I ask kindly that somone starts the poll, like we do for adminship applications.

Please also note that CheckUser actions are logged, but for privacy reasons the logs are only visible to other Checkusers. Because of this, Wikispecies must always have no fewer than two checkusers, for mutual accountability. I dont want to suggest anyone, but hope that someone feel inspired and will step forward and also apply for checkuser.

My request to the Wikispecies community is here

Dan Koehl (talk) 01:40, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Another application for Check User

As pointed out above by User:Dan Koehl, we need at least two Check Users for this wiki. I am nominating myself and would be happy to receive any feedback that you have to give (positive, negative, or neutral). Wikispecies:Checkusers/Requests/Koavf. Thanks. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:08, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Additional Checkuser Application

I also have added my name to those willing to be a checkuser. Please see my application here Wikispecies:Checkusers/Requests/Faendalimas. I listed this yeasterday but have been encouraged to do a mass mail. I would also take the opportunity to make sure everyone knows that any editor can vote but that it is imperative that as many do as possible, for all 4 of the current applicants, please have your say. Checkuser voting has strict policy rules regarding number of votes. You will have other messages from the other Users concerned you can also read about it in the discussion on the Village Pump - Wikispecies:Village_Pump#Application_for_Checkuser. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:53, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Standing for role of checkUser

Like some of our colleagues (who I support), I am offering to serve as a checkuser, not least to ensure adequate coverage in case one of the others is unavailable.

Please comment at Wikispecies:Checkusers/Requests/Pigsonthewing.

[Apologies if you receive a duplicate notification; I wasn't aware of Wikispecies:Mail list/active users, and sent my original notification to the list of administrators instead.] MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:59, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

RFC on Checkusers

With one week to go I wanted to remind everyone of the importance of voting on the current CheckUser applications. They can all be found together on a single RFC: Wikispecies:Requests_for_Comment#Checkusers.

It is extremely important with votes such as this for everyone to be involved. There are strict rules in the Wikimedia Foundation Policy guidelines on these votes. I would urge people to have a good understanding of what a CheckUser does. This can be read up on here on the page discussing CheckUser's Wikispecies:Checkusers. Links on this page will take you to other policy information on Meta, HowTo for our site etc.

I would also urge people to look at our own policy development and some past discussion on this can be found here: Wikispecies_talk:Local_policies#Local_CU_Policy.

Wikispecies has in the past had issues that has required the intervention that is supported by the ability to do a CheckUser. Many of us are aware of this. The capacity to do this ourselves greatly speeds up this process. Although SockPuppetry can sometimes be identified without using a CheckUser in order to do the necessary steps to stop it or even prevent it requires evidence. We all know that sockpupets can do significant damage.

This is an important step for Wikispecies. It is a clear demonstration we can run ourselves as a Wiki Project part of Wiki Media Foundation. When I and several others first discussed this we knew it would be difficult at the time to meet all the criteria. We have only now decided to try and get this feature included in Wikispecies. By doing this it can lead to other areas where Wikispecies can further develop its own policies. In some areas we have unique needs, different to the other Wiki's. It is timely we were able to develop all these policies.

Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) ^talk

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:15, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Request for vote reg use of BASEPAGENAME

The previous discussions regarding if we should subst:ing BASEPAGENAME and change all [[BASEPAGENAME]] into [[susbt:BASEPAGENAME]] did not really reach a consensus.

Please vote here on the Village pump!

If you are not sure on your opinion, you can read and join the discussion about the claimed advantages and disadvantages of using BASEPAGENAME

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:29, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Wikispecies Oversighter

Wikispecies has no local Oversighter. Since I had the communitys confidence regarding the previous application for Checkusers rights, as per local Oversight policy on META, I hereby apply to get Oversighters user rights, as a request to the Wikispecies community.

Application is located at Requests for Comment.

Please also note that Oversighter actions are logged, but for privacy reasons the logs are only visible to other Oversighters. Because of this, Wikispecies must always have no fewer than two oversighters, for mutual accountability. I don't want to suggest anyone, but hope that someone feel inspired and will step forward and also apply for oversighters rights.

Dan Koehl through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:01, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Oversight nomination

Please refer to Wikispecies:Oversighters/Requests/Koavf for a second Oversight nomination. Note that we must have at least two Oversigthers in order for anyone to have these user rights. All feedback is welcome. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:50, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

source notes

Hey there. I noticed Template:Curtis, 1840a and I think this is a case where a source page would be appropriate. You can link it from the template and collect all the relevant part templates together easily, as on Das Pflanzenreich. Circeus (talk) 13:32, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Author categories

Hello Keith Edkins, for creating author categories, please use the Template:Taxa by author. This template automatically applies the Category:Taxa by author and its text is translated in several languages.

{{Taxa by author|James David Ackerman|Ackerman, James David}}

Just type the full name, and after the string add the sortkey (without diacritics ä, ö, ü, è...). Kind regards, --Thiotrix (talk) 09:21, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Reference format

Hi, I really really ought to have mentioned it before but didn't want to put you off, but at Wikispecies we don't use bold for volume numbers among other things after a poll on the reference format in Village Pump back in 2015. Hope this helps! Monster Iestyn (talk) 14:55, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

This is true. The (today) preferred format is fairly well explained in Help:Reference section. Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 17:20, 9 July 2021 (UTC).

Administrator poll ended

Hello Keith Edkins. Since you didn't participate in the discussions/voting and the voting has been going on for more than seven days, could you please finalize the proposal regarding DannyS712’s administratorship? Thanks beforehand!

The reason I don’t finalize the request myself is that I was the one who nominated DannyS712 in the first place. Please note that I've sent this same message to all of the other uninvolved bureaucrats as well. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 21:51, 14 July 2021 (UTC).

How we will see unregistered users

Hi!

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Thank you. /Johan (WMF)

18:19, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Administrator poll ended

Hello Keith Edkins. Since you didn't participate in the discussions/voting and the voting has been going on for more than seven days, could you please finalize the proposal regarding Kaganer’s administratorship, and add the standard "Poll closed as promoted" note to officially close it? It's about a week overdue. I know you know the procedure, but otherwise use the poll for 1234qwer1234qwer4's adminship just above it as an example. Thanks beforehand!

The reason I don’t finalize the request myself is that I was the one who nominated Kaganer in the first place – that's also why I didn't vote in the poll. Please note that I've sent this same message to all of the other uninvolved bureaucrats as well, so when you read this some one may already have ended the poll.
Happy New Year! Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 06:45, 31 December 2022 (UTC).

This matter has been resolved. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 02:00, 2 January 2023 (UTC).

ISSN 0370-5935

Can you tell me please the difference between ISSN 0370-5935 created recently by you and ISSN 1124-5050? Specifically between Atti della Reale Accademia dei Lincei. Memorie della Classe di scienze fisiche, matematiche e naturali and Atti della Reale Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei. Rendiconti della classe di scienze fisiche, matematiche e naturali. Mariusm (talk) 07:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm very glad you asked that question, as it turned out to be far more complicated than I had imagined. It turns out that there are no less than 13 ISSNs for publications of the Academy of the Lynx-eyed which might contain zoological or botanical names. See table below (not showing publications on moral philosophy & history). From 1876 there are two strands - Memorie containing the whole submitted papers; and Transunti & Rendiconti which are reports of the sittings (seduta) of the Academy. The latter strand contains precis of the papers received, which may include some or all of the new biological names therein with bried descriptions. I imagine that the Rendiconti were published more rapidly - at least to members of the Academy - and that this may meet the criteria of the ICZN for Publication. Names not mentioned the Rendiconti, or only standing there as nomina nuda, will stand as published in the Memorie. It is therefore necessary to have an eye (lynx or otherwise) to both strands as sources of names.

Natural Science publications of the Reale Accademia nazionale dei Lincei (etc.)

ISSN 1124-495X Atti dell' Accademia Pontificia de' Nuovi Lincei 1847-1870
ISSN 1124-4968 Atti della Reale Accademia dei Lincei 1870-1877 (Ser. 2)
ISSN 1124-4992 Atti della Reale Accademia dei Lincei. Transunti 1876-1884 (Ser. 3)	ISSN 1124-4976 Atti della Reale Accademia dei Lincei. Memorie della Classe di scienze fisiche, matematiche e naturali 1876-1920 (Sers. 3-5)
ISSN 1124-500X Atti della Reale Accademia dei Lincei. Rendiconti 1884-1891 (Ser. 4)
ISSN 0001-4435 Atti della Reale Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei. Rendiconti della Classe di scienze fisiche, matematiche e naturali 1892-1920 (Ser. 5)
ISSN 1124-5042 Atti della Reale Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei. Rendiconti della Classe di scienze fisiche, matematiche e naturali 1920-1939 (Ser. 6)	ISSN 0370-5935 Atti della Reale Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei. Memorie della Classe di Scienze Fisiche, Matematiche e Naturali 1921-1944 (Sers. 6-7)
ISSN 0365-5946 Atti della Reale accademia d'Italia. Rendiconti della Classe di scienze fisiche, matematiche e naturali 1939-1943 (Ser. 7)
ISSN 0392-7881 Atti della Accademia nazionale dei Lincei. Rendiconti della Classe di scienze fisiche, matematiche e naturali 1946-1989 (Ser. 8)	ISSN 0365-0251 Atti della Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei. Memorie della Classe di Scienze Fisiche, Matematiche e Naturali. Sezione III: Botanica, zoologia, fisiologia e patologia 1946- (Sers. 8-10)
ISSN 1120-6349 Atti della Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei. Rendiconti Lincei. Scienze fisiche e naturali 1990-2007 (Ser. 9)
ISSN 2037-4631 Rendiconti lincei. Scienze fisiche e naturali 2008- (Ser. 10)

Oh, and ISSN 1124-5050 turned out to be a mistake - it is one of the moral philosophy & history series. I have deleted it as I cannot imagine it is relevant to this site.

Compliments of the season!--Keith Edkins (Talk) 17:39, 25 December 2023 (UTC) — The preceding comment was moved from another user talk page, since the discussion was initiated here.

Oh my! You got me dizzy... Mariusm (talk) 05:48, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Keith Edkins Nomenclator Generum pages

Hi Keith, Tony Rees here, compiler (-in chief, to date) of IRMNG, which I note you are using as a principal source for the Keith Edkins Nomenclator Generum pages at https://www.theedkins.co.uk/nomenclator/ (which is fine, thanks for the credit). Of course all content in IRMNG comes from elsewhere (excepting the odd editorial decision to follow one source over another, or correct an obvious error): as you discovered, most of the zoological names to 2004 from Nomenclator Zoologicus (=Neave in popular usage) via the uBio/Remsen dataset (with corrections as required per the relevant corrections listings), and most botanical names (sensu lato) from Index Nominum Genericorum (ING) up to 2012 (and IPNI after that). In general, I incorporated the original publication information (with slight standardisation) for names in Neave, but not those from ING since originally, that was not part of the dataset that they shared with me, although some have snuck in since... This is just to touch base and to say, if you encounter any issues with IRMNG data (or corrections needed), you are welcome to send me a note via a new section on my Wikispecies talk page at https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tony_1212, or contact a slightly wider group of IRMNG maintainers (both technical and content) via an email to info@irmng.org (although the "talk" page route provides perhaps a better option for issue tracking since unsolicited emails may be hard to trace down the track).

Since IRMNG is a dynamic dataset (new records get added, others corrected, changed or even deleted on occasion), at some point you may like to consider "change management" as future versions are released. New records are easy to find from following the IRMNG data IDs which (these days) are incremented from that last used on any previous release; amended or deleted ones are more difficult but I (we) may look for some method to advise such changes with future releases - however the change might be in an authority or date, a status, attributes such as habitat or extant status, a taxonomic placement, associated literature, or even (very occasionally) a spelling correction in a name itself, so capturing the gamut of these might be a bit of a challenge...

Anyway, best wishes with your project, and once again, any feedback / corrections / omissions would be happily considered. Regards Tony Rees, Australia Tony 1212 (talk) 02:37, 28 October 2024 (UTC)