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Admin RightsEdit


I was wondering if you could grant me admin rights. I attempted to run for adminship last month but no one voted at all. I think I should be admin because I have a long time experience on Wikipedia and I would love to help at Wikispecies.

TheJack15 (talk) 22:35, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Dear @TheJack15:, sorry, no I Can't give you admin rights. Such rights are discussed and voted for within the WS community, and admins and crats simply fulfill the wish and will of the community. As for the outcome of that admin voting, Im sure the community thought you were joking, since you Didn't do one single edit in the project so far? I suggest you start to participate in Wikispecies project though, if you are interested in taxonomy, and love to help at Wikispecies. Dan Koehl (talk) 23:57, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Global account information can be found here.Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 00:34, 9 February 2016 (UTC).
Thanks Tommy. Dan Koehl (talk) 00:41, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Patrol statsEdit

Thanks to Cgt on danish Wp, we can now see statistics on patrolling: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:07, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Please note that the patrolling stats URL has now changed from the da:WP user Cgt's personal web page (listed above) to a URL within the Wikimedia project itself, more specifically at Wikimedia Tool Labs. The old "" URL no longer works without a proper SSL certificate. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 22:46, 17 April 2016 (UTC).


Thanks for the Autopatrolled rights. :)--Rojypala (talk) 06:58, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

-idae and -idea in DictionaryEdit

-idae is used for subclasses in Plantae outside the APG system and was used for subclasses of angiosperms before the APG system (eg, Commelinidae). It is also used for subclasses in Bacteria. And the related suffix -mycetidae is used for subclasses of Fungi.

-idea is used for various ranks of animals, but I have not yet found a subclass that uses it, though I have found a class, an order, a suborder etc., only totaling five (what we have at Wiktionary). I'm sure there are more, probably including a subclass, but it does not seem common. DCDuring (talk) 02:02, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

I'd forgotten I had this list of all subclasses in Plantae from Ruggiero et al.

- DCDuring (talk) 02:11, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Great, thanks a lot for putting my attention to this @DCDuring:, I reverted my changes, and removed that item in Wikispecies:AutoWikiBrowser/Typos. Once again, thanks. Dan Koehl (talk) 02:22, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
I am working on taxonomic names at Wiktionary, trying to include things like gender, etymology, vernacular names. We also strive to retain and add obsolete terms. Our coverage is modest, but I am happy to respond to any questions you might have about the linguistic aspects of such names. DCDuring (talk) 02:34, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
In entomology you will find SuperFamilies, such as Papilionoidea or Noctuoidea that include Families such as Papilionidae or Notodontidae. Does this help or add confusion? Accassidy (talk) 19:46, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Block vandalEdit

Hi, please can you block this vandal? thanks in advance.--Syum90 (talk) 10:08, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

  Done, thanks for notifying me @Syum90:.Dan Koehl (talk) 12:03, 11 March 2016 (UTC)


Hello ! I suggested to install the translation extension on the Village pump but I'm not sure this page is the page to take decision. What do you think ? Archi38 (talk) 17:32, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello Archi. The VP surely is a great place for this discussion, however questions like this – as well as voting – can sometimes take a little bit longer at Wikispecies in comparison to many other Wikimedia sites. The reason for this is that the Wikispecies' user base is smaller than, say, the English Wikipedia's. But give it time and consensus will be reached. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 11:16, 13 March 2016 (UTC).
Ok, will wait. And thank you ! Archi38 (talk) 11:32, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Adding SpacesEdit


Can you explain the purpose of adding the space to the line break "<br/>" to make "<br_/>"? Alan. Accassidy (talk) 19:41, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

@Accassidy: Its an upgrade to en:XHTML, and compatible with en:XML. It seems those breaks are not used on all pages, or by everyone, but the old en:HTML like "<br>", and other variations gets corrected now. Im not really specifically looking for code errors, but submitted the most common in the resent configuration of AutoWikiBrowser, and the amount of corrections is in relation to the amount of not using XHTML code. But myself, I don't see that old code as a large problem. More info: Dan Koehl (talk) 20:13, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Accassidy (talk) 18:06, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

My pump comment deletedEdit

Hello Dan. Did you delete my last Pump comment on purpose or was it accidental? I've restored my comment. Mariusm (talk) 11:49, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Oh sorry @Mariusm:, my mistake, didn't notice that. Dan Koehl (talk) 01:29, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Adding a blank lineEdit

Hi Dan, Can you explain why you are recently inserting a blank line on author pages between DEFAULTSORT:xxx, xxxx and

Category:Taxon Authorities using the AWB. Is there any good reason for this? Kempf EK (talk) 14:02, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

I've actually been pondering this myself for some time. Even though {{DEFAULTSORT}} is a "magic word" rather than a category, in reality the only thing it really does is set a default Category Sort Key for the author page. In my opinion, because of this it belongs together with the other categories, rather than in a section of its own. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:54, 31 March 2016 (UTC).


Hello ! Could you add me to the translationadmin group ? Cause I need rights to translate technical templates. Thank you Archi38 (talk) 18:48, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

@Archi38:   Done. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:57, 3 April 2016 (UTC).
Perfect. I would start this afternoon. Archi38 (talk) 05:21, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Unfortunately I can't contribute the rest of this week. I will continue the next week. Archi38 (talk) 15:46, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
OK, Ill change your rights. Dan Koehl (talk) 00:33, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
I found a way to translate templates ! But could you give me translation admin rights again please ? Thanks Archi38 (talk) 08:34, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
  Done, Dan Koehl (talk) 11:16, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


Hi, could you add this banner on anonnotice to inform users ? And also could I create Help:Translation to explain what and how to translate, the needs, ect. Thanks Archi38 (talk) 20:49, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

  Done, and yes, please do. (Dan, see the equivalent "Banner" section in my talk page for another version of this very discussion. :-) Tommy Kronkvist, 07:38, 15 April 2016 (UTC).
Thanks Archi38 (talk) 11:35, 15 April 2016 (UTC)


Hello Dan,

I think that your help is needed here. User:Stho002 has come back to assault us, and can't be blocked. He's making new accounts daily. I started a poll on a Usercheck request, but I think you know the procedures better than I. We desperately need an IP-range block. Thank you. Mariusm (talk) 04:38, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

@Mariusm: Some of us tried before to develop our own local Usercheck policies about a year ago, I guess that when Stho002 was banned, most of the WS community didn't really see any acute need anymore, and maybe we don't need it, even if it would have been handy now. Anyhow Mariusm, Ill take the needed contacts regarding this issue, and ask for an IP-range block, unless someone else already did. Dan Koehl (talk) 08:44, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
I guess its good to wait for the outcome of the poll, which ends on 8th May Dan Koehl (talk) 09:44, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
@Mariusm:, CU is now requested at Meta. Dan Koehl (talk) 19:42, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

{{Spage}} template heads-upEdit

Hi Dan! I guess you've already noticed, but just in case you haven't seen it, this thread at the Village Pump can be of use in regards to fixing the {{Spage}} stuff. All the best, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:47, 17 May 2016 (UTC).



Koafv hat Stohner wieder entgrendeld, aber sonder permission von andere leute. Stohner is wieder da. Kann du eingreifen? PeterR (talk) 02:47, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Danke @PeterR:, ich schaue das mal an. Dan Koehl (talk) 05:09, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Not sure, but...Edit

Hi Dan. User:Ambrosia10 - not sure if this another sock. The user has been around since April, but the opening rubric has been seen before and he/she is editing only Stho002 pages mainly with harmless image additions. My interest came originally through a couple of unpatrolled pages. Regards Andyboorman (talk) 11:42, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

The user's global account information can be found here. The user name is attached to 44 Wikimedia accounts. No current blocks, and carrying autopatrol rights on Commons, plus autoreviewer and extendedconfirmed on enWP. Seems okay to me, at least at first glance. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 08:20, 22 August 2016 (UTC).
You are correct me thinks, it seems that there is a common origin in new Zealand and not much else! Andyboorman (talk) 18:37, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

AWB & XToolsEdit

Hej Dan!

  1. På engelska Wikipedia finns en sida där man kan ansöka om "körkort" för AutoWikiBrowser. Enligt uppgift ges emellertid tillstånd endast just för engelskspråkiga Wikipedia, och inget annat. Hur gör jag om jag vill köra AWB här på Wikispecies?
  2. Sedan en tid tillbaka kan man inte använda XTools verktyg för att lista skapade sidor på Wikispecies. Faktum är att inga av XTools verktyg tycks fungera för Wikispecies – de fungerar dock för övriga wikier. Vet du någon väg runt det, eller något annat verktyg på WMFLabs man kan använda för att lista skapade sidor? Söker man en redigeringsräknare kan man ju exempelvis använda sig av SuperCount, men den listar bara antal redigeringar, inte antal skapade sidor. Tacksam för svar – och ha det bra! Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 08:56, 18 October 2016 (UTC).
Hej @Tommy Kronkvist:, på fråga 2 avvaktar jag med svar, kikar på detta, just nu har jag faktiskt ingen aning. Angående din fråga angående tillstånd att använda AWB, så saknas mig veterligt en sådan rutin på Wikispecies. Kanske bör vi utveckla rutiner för detta, behöver inte vara så komplicerat. Svenska Wikipedia tror jag inte heller har någon rutin för AWB användning, det har helt enkelt varit för få som ens känt till AWB. Mvh, Dan Koehl (talk) 13:39, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Jag tror jag uttryckte mig luddigt, såvitt jag förstår är det bara att börja använda AWB, men som sagt, vi bör kanske starta en rutin för att ansöka om behörighet för detta. Angående din första fråga, kan detta möjligen fylla ditt behov? Dan Koehl (talk) 04:15, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
Nej då, du var enligt min mening alldeles tillräckligt tydlig. :-) Även jag tycker att vi borde ha rutiner för AWB på Wikispecies, enär fasta och tydliga riktlinjer underlättar ifall någon användare börjar missbruka tjänsten. Jag tar gärna tag i den delen, och skriver sidor om tillvägagångssätt och behörigheter etc. När det väl finns utkast till en policy eller åtminstone guideline så kan ju saken sedan diskuteras av alla användare i våra vanliga forum, så vi når konsensus.
Sidan med "skapade sidor"-räknaren du föreslår är bra och lättöverskådlig. Synd förvisso att den bara listar 500 skapade sidor åt gången, men det totala antalet skapade sidor står ju ändå strax före användarnamnet högst upp till vänster ("XXXXX remaining") så det gör inte så mycket. (Att lägga till exempelvis &max=2000 i webbadressen hjälper inte: maxvärdet 500 tycks hårdkodat i skriptet. Det kan jämföras med Wikispecies "vanliga" redigeringsräknare under "Contributions" uppe till höger, där man kan klicka i "Only show edits that are page creations" och addera exempelvis &limit=5000 till addressraden, så listar den 5000 skapade sidor på en och samma sida.) Men som sagt, så länge man får det sammanlagda värdet av antalet skapade sidor så är jag nöjd. Tack, och fortsatt trevlig helg! –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 18:41, 22 October 2016 (UTC).


The "bot" DanKoehlBot seems inactive, and does not have a bot flag. Furthermore, since its creation in late March 2015 the bot hasn't made a single edit – with the exception of creating its own user page – nor does the user page state the purpose of the bot. I propose we delete it. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 09:38, 18 October 2016 (UTC).

Of course and as you know, if you intend to use the bot in the future you are always welcome to request that it gets approved by he community. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 09:41, 18 October 2016 (UTC).
@Tommy Kronkvist:, I believe this bot account could serve for spell-checking issues, I'm almost ready with the configuration of the spell-checking, and will request that it gets approved. I think the members of WS will be happier that the spellchecking is performed with a bot, rather than on my personal account, as long as the configuration is approved by the community. So please don't delete it, as for now. Dan Koehl (talk) 17:12, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
Agreed. All the best, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 17:31, 21 October 2016 (UTC)~.

User access changeEdit

Bot I am doing a monotonous change with AWB, so you may wish to change me to a bot for the next 24 hours. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 02:11, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Avslutad omröstningEdit

Hej Dan. Den här omröstningen är nu avslutad sedan några dygn tillbaka. Jag undrar om du skulle vilja lägga den till handlingarna, och markera den som avslutad + "unresolved"? Jag kan förstås göra det själv, men till skillnad från dig har jag röstat – och ur "demokratisk" synvinkel ser det bättre ut om ärendet avslutas av någon som inte varit part i målet. Tack på förhand! –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 01:51, 7 November 2016 (UTC).

  Done :) Dan Koehl (talk) 19:45, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
One more… :-) Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 04:13, 22 November 2016 (UTC).
  Done :) Dan Koehl (talk) 12:52, 22 November 2016 (UTC)


Question: What is the origin of the vernacular names that you added to bird species? I wonder about the ultimate origin as wikidata is importing them from wikispecies. Some are from the IUCN but others not. JMK (talk) 22:43, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

@JMK: As for Swedish vernacular names a list of can be found here. Near the bottom of the page you will find links to HTML-, Excel- and PDF files listing the scientific as well as English and Swedish vernacular names of 10,815 species of birds. The list is continually updated and divided into three parts: "Del 1", "Del 2" and "Del 3" listing non-passerine, passerine, and extinct species, respectively. Regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 05:08, 22 November 2016 (UTC).

Vieillot templatesEdit

Merry Christmas Dan. I would like your opinion about creating templates for the giant 36 volumes of Nouveau Dictionnaire....I have 3 options, first is one template with multiple 36 BHL links to each volume; second is obviously 36 templates, which would make it simplest and direct for each taxon reference; and third, since the volumes were publicated from 1816 to 1819, would be 5 templates each with multiple BHL links. I hope I was clear...Thanks.--Hector Bottai (talk) 13:56, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Personally I would vote for the 36 templates option. While the most work, it is certainly the most convenient solution in the long run. (By the way Dan, a template for Tome 14 is already created – thanks for that, Hector!) Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 20:26, 27 December 2016 (UTC).
Thank you for that initiative, @Hector Bottai:, I suggest that you please move this discussion to the Village pump, so more members of WS can take part in discussions. Dan Koehl (talk) 10:11, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Done. Thanks @Tommy Kronkvist: and @Dan Koehl:.--Hector Bottai (talk) 12:15, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
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