User talk:Pigsonthewing/Archive 2

Template:Botanist

Hello, Template:Botanist seems (at least to me) no longer to be working, in that it does not change the display of "botanist" depending on one's language settings; do you know why? Thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 10:34, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

@Maculosae tegmine lyncis: I can see no reason; there have been no recent changes to either the template nor Module:Getlabel on which it depends. Neither have there been any relevant changes to the Wikidata item it uses, d:Q2374149. As it relies on Wikidata, the issue may be transient, so please try again.; after purging the page you're viewing. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:10, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Template:McNamara, 1997

Hi Andy. This is a very small issue, but I wonder if there is a reason to why you added the same link twice when you created the {{McNamara, 1997}} template? There's one link "page 97" and one link "BHL" but they're both aiming at the same URL. As I said it's not a huge deal, but nonetheless it's a tiny bit misleading and/or inviting confusion. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:32, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

@Tommy Kronkvist: I simply moved the code from another page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:36, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Okey, thanks. I've cleaned it up a bit. Tommy Kronkvist (talk). 22:03, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

Template for references

Hello, and Thank you for this (and subsequent) help(s). Small question: Should we systematically create templates for references, such as {{Creighton, 1930}}, {{Creighton, 1930b}}... and eventually convert all references from the author's page to templates? Or only for references actually used on taxon pages (to begin with)? Thank you in advance. AtonX (talk) 19:07, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

@AtonX: Ideally all of them, as they should all correspond to items in Wikidata. But as your comment implies, priority is for works cited on more than one page Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:10, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Nepenthes

Hi I requested that the some accepted combinations in the above genus be filled with data rather than deleted, but you deleted them, why? See Talk Pages. They are non-controversial so an easy fix, say 5 mins in total. I am doing a couple of red linked genera. Never mind. Andyboorman (talk) 19:00, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Because I'm not telepathic. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:01, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Because it is on the Discussion Page as requested by the request., no need for telepathy. Andyboorman (talk) 19:52, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Question about how Cite Q displays

Hi Pigsonthewing! I have a question about {{Cite Q}}. I am trying to replicate this current display of data at Template:Roksandic et al., 2021.

• {{a|Mirjana Roksandic|Roksandic, M.}}, {{a|Predrag Radović|Radović, P.}}, {{a|Xiu-Jie Wu|Wu, X.-J.}} & {{a|Christopher J. Bae|Bae, C.J.}} 2021. Resolving the “muddle in the middle”: The case for ''Homo bodoensis'' sp. nov. ''[[ISSN 1060-1538|Evolutionary Anthropology]]'' 1–10. {{doi|10.1002/evan.21929}} displays:

Roksandic, M., Radović, P., Wu, X.-J. & Bae, C.J. 2021. Resolving the “muddle in the middle”: The case for Homo bodoensis sp. nov. Evolutionary Anthropology 1–10. DOI: 10.1002/evan.21929

This differs from my attempt to use Cite Q with the |author=, |year=, & |journal= parameters from {{Citation}}.

• {{cite q| Q109321060 |author={{a|Mirjana Roksandic|Roksandic, M.}}, {{a|Predrag Radović|Radović, P.}}, {{a|Xiu-Jie Wu|Wu, X.-J.}} & {{a|Christopher J. Bae|Bae, C.J.}}|date=2021|journal=Evolutionary Anthropology|doi-access=free}} displays:

Roksandic, M., Radović, P., Wu, X.-J. & Bae, C.J. (2021), "Resolving the "muddle in the middle": The case for Homo bodoensis sp. nov", Evolutionary Anthropology (published 28 October 2021): 20–29, doi:10.1002/EVAN.21929, ISSN 1060-1538, Wikidata Q109321060{{citation}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

Is there some way that I can suppress the display of (published 28 October 2021) after the journal title so that I can closely replicate the original display of Template:Roksandic et al., 2021? Peaceray (talk) 17:52, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

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@Peaceray: Add |publication-date=2021:

• {{cite q| Q109321060 |author={{a|Mirjana Roksandic|Roksandic, M.}}, {{a|Predrag Radović|Radović, P.}}, {{a|Xiu-Jie Wu|Wu, X.-J.}} & {{a|Christopher J. Bae|Bae, C.J.}}|date=2021|journal=Evolutionary Anthropology|doi-access=free |publication-date=2021}} displays:

Roksandic, M., Radović, P., Wu, X.-J. & Bae, C.J. (2021), "Resolving the "muddle in the middle": The case for Homo bodoensis sp. nov", Evolutionary Anthropology: 20–29, doi:10.1002/EVAN.21929, ISSN 1060-1538, Wikidata Q109321060{{citation}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

Best, Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:23, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

OK! Thank you! Peaceray (talk) 18:26, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

How we will see unregistered users

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18:19, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Modify affiliation of taxa

@Dherbin: Moved to Wikispecies:Village Pump#Modify affiliation of taxa, for wider discussion.. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:41, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Illidops not Illadopsis

Hi friend, looks that you put the template in a wrong page, Illadopsis is Aves, the template Kotenko refers to Illidops, no page.Cheers Hector Bottai (talk) 22:20, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@Hector Bottai: Fixed, thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:18, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Kenneth W. Able

Heya Andy! I created this entry today, and saw it's not picking up the Wikidata entry. Went over there and saw there were two entries, so I merged them. Came back here, purged the page. Still not picking it up. I'm not sure how to poke this so that it's right. For now, I've manually added some Authority Control values for now. I plan on making more author entries, so would like to know what to do when I run into this again. Thanks! - user:UtherSRG (talk) 13:46, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Oh! I needed to point the wikidata entry to our page here. Got it! user:UtherSRG (talk) 13:51, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Template

I didn't pay attention. pardon. I created this template. Today this template is no longer needed. I use template:IUCN2 instead. Fagus (talk) 15:41, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Doi and year of publication

Hello Andy. You recently created Template:Hadrava et al., 2019 but at least from here the doi seems to be dead? Also, are you sure about the year of publication? In any case the journal link is wrong: it should be linked to the Wikispecies page ISSN 1399-560X rather than to ISSN:1876-312X (an external site). Information about the article can be found at Brill: https://brill.com/view/journals/ise/51/5/ise.51.issue-5.xml

I've added an alternative Hadrava et al. citation on the Blera page which perhaps may be changed into an alternative reference template and used instead, or added to your template which in that case should of course be renamed "Template:Hadrava et al., 2020". All the best, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:41, 29 November 2022 (UTC).

Mea culpa on the ISSN format, but the rest I simply copied from another user's in-line entry. I note that your linked page has "Volume 51 (2019): Issue 5 (Sep 2020)"; and uses the same DOI. Feel free to edit or rename the template as you see fit. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:17, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

I notified Brill of the DOI issue; they say "We will pass this information on to our DOI specialist. This will probably be fixed within a few days." Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:28, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Then I'll wait a few days and take it from there. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 15:21, 2 December 2022 (UTC).

@Pigsonthewing @Tommy Kronkvist: Hi, just to let you both know, the doi for this template is now resolved as of writing, and the publication date is ...more complicated it turns out. According to the actual article PDF (if you can access it), it states "Version of Record, published online 21 November 2019; published in print 5 September 2020". Weirdly though, the latter is stated to be the online publication date on Brill's website, with no mention of the other. This may be unimportant in the end though, as the publication date on the linked ZooBank record (here) is also 5 September 2020, so this is likely the correct publication date to use under the ICZN code I think, and therefore the publication year for this article should be considered 2020. (Though that is somewhat weird to me regardless, why was the ZooBank record set for the print date and not the electronic version? or is the PDF itself wrong somehow? I don't entirely get what's going on here.) Monster Iestyn (talk) 01:44, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Need a bit of help please

I tried to fix a lapsus in the name of Apis mellifera adansonii (it was listed as adaMsonii). Only when it was already too late I saw the 'Move' button which is what I should have used. Instead I edited the names on both the Apis mellifera and the subspecies pages instead, and when this did not have the desired effect I created a new page for A.m. adansonii. Now there is an invalid page for A.m. adamsonii dangling unconnected, plus I can not move the image from that page to the new one.

I now know how to do it correctly next time, but I will need some help cleaning up the mess I made this time, please. Sorry and thank you. Ongava (talk) 07:11, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

@Ongava: I've sorted it all out: see Apis mellifera adansonii (and I've deleted the "Apis mellifera adamsonii" page). Thanks for noticing the incorrect spelling of the taxon name. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 07:41, 18 December 2022 (UTC).

Hi Tommy, thanks indeed, much appreciated. I'm still learning :-) Ongava (talk) 07:53, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Ask for Pigs on the wing

Pigs on the wing, why did you delete my page and my user subpages? Why are they outside the scope of the project? On Wiktionary, Wikibooks, Wikidata, Meta-Wiki, Wikiversity, Wikispore and Wikiquote all my subpages have been accepted. Why on Wikispecies are you not accepting my page and my user subpages? Leonardo José Raimundo (talk) 16:02, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

For the reasons I gave on your talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:17, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

In regards to the user's statement above, please note that they are indefinitely blocked on Wikidata, Portuguese Wikipedia + Wikinews, and Spanish Wiktionary. They were blocked for the first time already in 2015, but the indef blocks all stems from 2020–2023. They've made a handful of new out of ambit edits since you deleted their 8 Wikispecies user page subpages in late January this year, however all of those edits were promptly deleted by Burmeister and myself. I've notified the user asking them not to post any more out of scope material.
Regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 15:05, 11 April 2023 (UTC).