Olei

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Saturniidae

Olei,

I see you add a lot of Saturniidae via Entomo-Satsphingia. I suppose you have all the bulletins. Have you also the Saturnnidae bulletins fom Lambillionea and many other bulletins?. If you can do the Saturniidae from Entomo-Satsphingia, 2016, 9(3A), this should be a great help. PeterR (talk) 17:59, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi PeterR, I have the complete series of Entomo-Satsphingia (thanks to Wikimedia Austria for sponsoring). Unfortunately I have no access to Lambillionea. Other bulletins only if they are online (subito, jstor etc.). If you are looking for something special ask me and I will have a look. I started with the Saturniidae at the end of the paper - feel free to add taxa from the beginning. ;-) --Olei (talk) 21:48, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

I get all the papers from Naturalis. So I shall order the copies of the bulletins from Lambillionea and others from them. I have to pay for those bulletins. So what you can get for free is good to me. I'm a member from Naturalis. PeterR (talk) 08:37, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

BTW, there is a special page in de-wp called Bibliotheksrecherche (library research). If you have difficulties to get literature you can ask there. It's free. --Olei (talk) 18:17, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Olei,

I see you have forgotten to add the holotype etc. by Oxytenis paraguayensis and others. See for example Archaeoattacus vietnamensis PeterR (talk) 15:11, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Omg. This would take awhile... --Olei (talk) 09:53, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

BASEPAGENAME

Hi Olei, and thank you for your many welcome contributions! I would like to inform you that when creating/editing taxon pages, the use of the BASEPAGENAME magic word is no longer recommended. Instead of BASEPAGENAME, please simply use the taxon name (i.e. the page name). –Thank you, and best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 22:29, 16 November 2017 (UTC).

If you want to, you can use this diff. as an example. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 22:35, 16 November 2017 (UTC).

Tommy, thanks for your hints. Please tell me in short why the above mentioned magic is no longer recommended? In my opinion its very useful. --Olei (talk) 22:50, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

For the most part the {{BASEPAGENAME}} magic word works as expected and without any errors, but nonetheless there are several reasons why we should not use it. This issue has been discussed several times, and you can see some of the talks here and using the link in my first post above – but it has been discussed on many, many other occasions as well. One problem arises if a taxon page is moved, for instance if a subspecies (or variety, form, etc.) is promoted to a full, sovereign species, or when a species is split into several new subspecies (or varieties, forms, etc.). The consequences of using {{BASEPAGENAME}} in such cases differ and are fairly technical, but one underlaying problem is that the {{BASEPAGENAME}} magic word is used both by adding it "manually" on taxon pages (not recommended) and used automatically by a lot of templates (recommended, but seldom noticed by us users, since it is done automatically). As an example, {{BASEPAGENAME}} is automatically added by the {{Reftemp}} template, which is used on more or less every reference/publication template in Wikispecies. That's only one (and not very related) example, but it's being used on almost 46,000 pages… To add to the complexity several templates also use the similar {{PAGENAME}}, {{FULLPAGENAME}} and/or {{SUBPAGENAME}} magic words as well, and there is a risk of odd mix-ups in the case of page-moves.

As I said the problems by "manually" adding {{BASEPAGENAME}} are few, but when they occur it can be very hard and/or time-consuming to find + correct them. So to conclude: in the long run it's a lot easier simply not to use it. :-) This is also mentioned in the "Format" section of the Taxonavigation help page, and all information on all of the help pages can be seen as guidelines for how to edit Wikispecies. (As I guess you know our guidelines are not as strict as our Wikispecies policies, but close enough...)

The whole {{BASEPAGENAME}} issue is fairly difficult to explain, but I hope this helped at least a bit? In any case – happy editing! Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 01:18, 17 November 2017 (UTC).

Thanks for your explanations. --Olei (talk) 08:39, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

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