Scuila

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Maxim_(talk) 19:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Bird families

Please stop messing up bird families to suit one piece of research that is not followed by any of the major ornithological organisations! See e.g. Avibase, IOC World Bird List, Lynx HBW, etc. - Thanks! MPF 19:26, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

How about Zipcodezoo? --Scuila 19:29, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Them?? Sorry, but they're not considered a serious scientific organisation! I have found masses of errors on their site in the past - MPF 19:34, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you're right. But Avibase is way out of date, at least in Passeriformes. I will stop editing other orders though. Check Sibley's or Howard and Moore's bird lists, or read Arnaiz-Villena's findings in families Passeridae and Fringillidae. And please stop carelessly undoing my edits. I have also added pictures and other improvements that souldn't be removed without a reason. --Scuila 19:46, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I'd guess wikispecies will adopt new classifications as/when Avibase and IOC do so; presumably they are not following yet because they wish to wait for confirmatory evidence for the new data. It isn't always the best thing to follow new findings immediately, further research often has a way of showing they weren't always right. And nomenclatural stability is important too; I know the BOU have a policy of only introducing major classification changes every 10 years, rather than rearranging everything with each new research paper. Might be best to discuss major changes like this first at the Wikispecies:Village Pump before starting on them, so as to get consensus beforehand. I have kept the pics you added (except for Erythrura, where I moved the pic to Chloebia as that's where Wikispecies has the species - "Erythrura gouldiae" gave a redlink), sorry if I have missed any unintentionally. - MPF 21:08, 14 March 2009 (UTC)